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becchio bear wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:24 pm The clamour wasn't aimed at you William

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I know that mate the calls for change have been loud for a long time and while in my head I understand, football is a game of the heart and it hurts me that he leaves like this.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:40 pm Rumours coming out, Bielsa has lost the players & are angry with him for running them into the ground & his tactics has drove them to despair, he has distanced himself since they voiced their concern.

Raphinha says he wont play for the club if Bielsa is at ER next season. Rodrigo wants out. Also, Llorente blasted Bielsa at the interval of the Manure gamine.

Bamford had a go about the excessive training. Cooper & Ayling asked for a meeting to voice the squads concerns, but Bielsa blanked them, the atmosphere at TA is apparently toxic since, Three players refused to do murderball but were coaxed into doing it by the other players.

Bielsa wasn't signing a contract next season.
That doesn't surprise me!

I've said all season that something was going on behind the scenes and things didn't feel right.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:40 pm Rumours coming out, Bielsa has lost the players & are angry with him for running them into the ground & his tactics has drove them to despair, he has distanced himself since they voiced their concern.

Raphinha says he wont play for the club if Bielsa is at ER next season. Rodrigo wants out. Also, Llorente blasted Bielsa at the interval of the Manure gamine.

Bamford had a go about the excessive training. Cooper & Ayling asked for a meeting to voice the squads concerns, but Bielsa blanked them, the atmosphere at TA is apparently toxic since, Three players refused to do murderball but were coaxed into doing it by the other players.

Bielsa wasn't signing a contract next season.
Exactly the scenario I mentioned but others totally dismissed.

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Footballers have no loyalty and will throw anyone under the bus before taking responsibility themselves.
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It still is in danger big time and there's a lot resting on the shoulders of who they employ next .

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I've said there's been trouble at mill for a long time,
Looking forward to see what MOTD say about it
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Fecked over the manager that made a lot of there careers
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Seems more and more likely the club aren't going to comment tonight

Poor show if true.

We will probably get some tearful Orta video tomorrow with Cooper saying "chin up gaffer"
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:43 pm Interesting that fans have been blamed, players have been blamed, Radz and Orta have been blamed.

Nobody has pointed the finger at the American venture capital fund whilst we seemingly close in on an American manager.

All those faceless investors whose identity we don't know don't give a fook about Bielsa or LUFC for that matter but they care very deeply about there investment in a multi million pound asset that was in danger of seeing its value diminished significantly and Radz cares very much about the money of that fund without which he probably can't afford to run LUFC.
couldn't you say that about pretty much any club and owner in the premier league?
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:40 pm Rumours coming out, Bielsa has lost the players & are angry with him for running them into the ground & his tactics has drove them to despair, he has distanced himself since they voiced their concern.

Raphinha says he wont play for the club if Bielsa is at ER next season. Rodrigo wants out. Also, Llorente blasted Bielsa at the interval of the Manure gamine.

Bamford had a go about the excessive training. Cooper & Ayling asked for a meeting to voice the squads concerns, but Bielsa blanked them, the atmosphere at TA is apparently toxic since, Three players refused to do murderball but were coaxed into doing it by the other players.

Bielsa wasn't signing a contract next season.
And the source?

Some bar street lawyer who has had a few spliffs too many probably...
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William wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:17 pm No clamour from me.

That man made me love football again.
Made me think more deeply about what is important when dealing with other human beings again.
Made me think a bit deeper on a few levels.
Restructured our club from the grassroots up.

There is more to say and if we give ourselves the room perhaps it can be said.

But Leeds United, the City of Leeds and the fambase are poorer tonight than we were yesterday
Black black day. No one made Leeds play the way Marcelo did. Second only to Revie for me
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Radio silence
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:40 pm Rumours coming out, Bielsa has lost the players & are angry with him for running them into the ground & his tactics has drove them to despair, he has distanced himself since they voiced their concern.

Raphinha says he wont play for the club if Bielsa is at ER next season. Rodrigo wants out. Also, Llorente blasted Bielsa at the interval of the Manure gamine.

Bamford had a go about the excessive training. Cooper & Ayling asked for a meeting to voice the squads concerns, but Bielsa blanked them, the atmosphere at TA is apparently toxic since, Three players refused to do murderball but were coaxed into doing it by the other players.

Bielsa wasn't signing a contract next season.

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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:43 pm Interesting that fans have been blamed, players have been blamed, Radz and Orta have been blamed.

Nobody has pointed the finger at the American venture capital fund whilst we seemingly close in on an American manager.

All those faceless investors whose identity we don't know don't give a fook about Bielsa or LUFC for that matter but they care very deeply about there investment in a multi million pound asset that was in danger of seeing its value diminished significantly and Radz cares very much about the money of that fund without which he probably can't afford to run LUFC.
If it was them, then at least they have some ambition and want to remain the PL. :tup:
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danhirons wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:52 pm couldn't you say that about pretty much any club and owner in the premier league?
To a degree I suppose but more relevant for things like Venture capital funds where you have an unspecified amount of people all with there hands out and with interests in things they probably don't even pay any attention to until they speak to there financial advisor.

Dreadful organisation to let into the club and probably pulling the strings
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Thing about football clubs is that they are by nature money sinks.

So what the venture capitalists angle is I don't get?
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:40 pm Rumours coming out, Bielsa has lost the players & are angry with him for running them into the ground & his tactics has drove them to despair, he has distanced himself since they voiced their concern.

Raphinha says he wont play for the club if Bielsa is at ER next season. Rodrigo wants out. Also, Llorente blasted Bielsa at the interval of the Manure gamine.

Bamford had a go about the excessive training. Cooper & Ayling asked for a meeting to voice the squads concerns, but Bielsa blanked them, the atmosphere at TA is apparently toxic since, Three players refused to do murderball but were coaxed into doing it by the other players.

Bielsa wasn't signing a contract next season.
I can't see that at all. The players were still giving it their all despite the results, you don't do that if you aren't playing for the manager. I can hardly see Bamford having a go bout trainging or any of the players that Bielsa has transformed. The only player in our squad when Bielsa took over that had any chance of playing in the premier league would have been Vieira, outside shot PJ at a lower level prem club.

Raphinha will be out regardless of who is manager next season so that is complete nonsense. Rodrigo possibly wants out but that is likely more down to the grass being greener in Spain.

The only bit that might have a shred of truth would be the Llorente thing but I doubt that would have been him blasting Bielsa more likely just a few raised voices at half time against MU but that happens in any changing room.

All in all most likely just some muppet who has been against Bielsa and looking to stick the knife in. Probably turn out to be someone like Gobby Abogalor or Stan Collymore, someone with no clue about how to manage a football team but love the sound of their own voice.

If anything I could see the players trying to convince Bielsa to stay (if he was resigning) or telling the board to bring him back (if they'd sacked him). I'd be amazed if the majority of the players weren't fully behind Bielsa.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:59 pm To a degree I suppose but more relevant for things like Venture capital funds where you have an unspecified amount of people all with there hands out and with interests in things they probably don't even pay any attention to until they speak to there financial advisor.

Dreadful organisation to let into the club and probably pulling the strings
Are they like SISU (Coventry)?
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:00 pm Where's this from?
I can't divulge that information, Sara.
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I have to say there hasn't been much fight or passion the last few months, just gutless surrenders.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:06 pm I can't divulge that information, Sara.
Your bff KP? :duno:
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