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[1964white]

Last night reminded me of some of our performances under Feckinarse. No fight, no shape, no desire, we were like lambs to the slaughter. If we don't beat Norwich on Sunday, and that is by no means assured, then it's back to the championship for us. We are sh*t

We're heading there, believe me Nick, it has been on the cards since Christmas.

[1964white]

5th in the Championship right now.. Corberan 3rd ...

Corberan doing very well mate.

[1964white]

This is what Bert did with all the cavalry and the same shite available only 11 months ago, it speaks for itself how much he needed them.

Sat Apr 10 Premier Manchester City Away Won 2-1
MonApr 19 Premier Liverpool Home Drew 1-1
Sun Apr 25 Premier Manchester United Home Drew 0-0
Sat May 1 Premier Brighton & Hove Albion Away Lost 0-2
Sat May 8 Premier Tottenham Hotspur Home Won 3-1
Sat May 15 Premier Burnley Away Won 4-0
Tue May 18 Premier Southampton Away Won 2-0
Sun May 23 Premier West Bromwich Albion Home Won 3-1

But idiots just couldn't see the bigger picture and panicked like fck, after 4 years of Bertball, they should've trusted him more.

I did.

And this season??

[Johnboy1965]

Pressure will really be on us on Sunday once Burnley beat Brentford Saturday and we drop into bottom 3.

[The Subhuman]

Corberan doing very well mate.

Always my next choice for manager ...

[Tyzy]

Corberan doing very well mate.

I always thought Corberan went to Hudds to gain experience before taking over from MB

Looks like he's going to pass us on the way up

[Baldbloke]

I always thought Corberan went to Hudds to gain experience before taking over from MB

Looks like he's going to pass us on the way up

So did I. Mentioned it a few times on some of the posts

[Carrick Dave]

We've been poor all season, Kenny.

Sadly we are relegation fodder destined for the championship with whoever is in charge

So why change the manager and saddle us with an unknown for years?

[Finnatic]

So did I. Mentioned it a few times on some of the posts

That was before the 49er’s increased their stake if memory serves me well.

[SG90]

And this season??

Not a single point v top 6

[Ada Lovelace]

Hello everyone.

Watford fan in peace here.

I have no idea how you lot are feeling this morning after that utter crap show last night for both our side. I would switch league places with your lot in a heartbeat right now. Not sure if any of you watched/listened to our game but Wolves totally played us off the park and our grinning Goal Keeper Ben Foster put in one of his worst performances. Even if we had Sarr last night it would of made little difference.

I know your lot got stuffed by Slippy G's Aston Vanilla - and I looked and that result in the context of ours and thought "we are both in some serious crap". Btw, I really like your new manager. He's very upfront with problems and tells it how it is. We are stuck with a OAP who needs to retire and has absolutely no clue how to organize a side - let alone battle against relegation.

I have always had a soft spot for Leeds, and I admire you use youth and experience to get push you forward. Our squad has an average age of 32/33. We have kept the same back line since 17/18 and people wonder why we ship so many goals. Anyway, just wanted to wish you all the best for the rest of the season (not long left now), I do not think we will meet again after the reverse fixture at Vicarage Road, I think your lot will do enough over the final games and stay up. Everton will probably do the same. I personally think it's Norwich, Watford and Burnley for the drop.

Ada x

[lufc1304]

5th in the Championship right now.. Corberan 3rd ...

You and I differed on him, faaip, and maybe he's found a fit at the blunts, but he was awful with us. Corberan doing well after a shaky start, I'd hoped he would replace MB but that's not going to happen.

[lufc1304]

We're heading there, believe me Nick, it has been on the cards since Christmas.

Perhaps we would have been with MB, Leon, but I've never once seen a Bielsa team that shapeless and lacking in even the basics as during last night's shambles. I know you see way more games than me, but have you seen us this bad? And did the fans ever leave in droves as they did last night?

[The Subhuman]

You and I differed on him, faaip, and maybe he's found a fit at the blunts, but he was awful with us. Corberan doing well after a shaky start, I'd hoped he would replace MB but that's not going to happen.

Not really, he was never the answer but taking over a failing team mid season is very difficult, he didn't get Saiz to start (suspended iirc,) Klich was in Holland, team was very unfit, injuries becoming a small issue, well small compared to this season. He didn't get to bring in his own players and he didn't get a pre season. He didn't deserve the flak he got.

Marsch may not get a pre season and chance to bring in his own guys either and he cannot be judged til he does really. So I won't, but he looks the wrong man for this particular job but then there was no right man except Marcelo

Bringing in Marsch looks to me like we're preparing for life in the championship with the chance we can save ourselves this. All our eggs are in the one basket..

[lufc1304]

Not really, he was never the answer but taking over a failing team mid season is very difficult, he didn't get Saiz to start (suspended iirc,) Klich was in Holland, team was very unfit, injuries becoming a small issue, well small compared to this season. He didn't get to bring in his own players and he didn't get a pre season. Marsch may not either but he cannot be judged til he does really. So I won't, but he looks the wrong man for this particular job but then there was no right man except Marcelo

Bringing in Marsch looks to me like we're preparing for life in the championship with the chance we can save ourselves this. All our eggs are in the one basket..

Recognise all of the above re Feckinarse, the deck was stacked against him, but it was his refusal to shoulder any responsibility for results and performances that really grated with me. Something Bielsa, rightly or wrongly, always did. You wash your dirty linen in private, you don't hang players out to dry.

Marsch has been here 5 minutes, so it would be unfair to hang the blame on him, but whatever plan he sent those players out with last night, it went wrong from the off and he appeared to be clueless as to how to turn things around. Maybe he is the right man but, if we go down, he has a steep learning curve re the realities of the championship. I'll be there to support, as always, but I fear there may be some short term pain.

[Kennyb41]

And this season??

Oh dear me 64 don't tell me you can't fathom it either

The cavalry is the main reason, fathom the rest for yourself.

We are back to being a bob standard Championship team, that even i don't think the cavalry can save us now this Yanks in charge.

Take a look at our remaining games, Bert would've easily won some of them with our main 3 back, this guy has me completely worried he won't have a clue how to bring out their best ability to save us, Cooper will return to being a shite defender, Bamford will have no supply, and i've a feeling he'll have KP as a headless chicken, i hope i'm wrong.

See you all Sunday, i'll be in church early doors

Must dash.

[BGwhite]

Pressure will really be on us on Sunday once Burnley beat Brentford Saturday and we drop into bottom 3.

I think we must hope Brentford win that one now even if it means going well clear of us. We need Burnley to keep losing as it's the only way we're staying up.

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[VinnysTattoo]

Hello everyone.

Watford fan in peace here.

I have no idea how you lot are feeling this morning after that utter crap show last night for both our side. I would switch league places with your lot in a heartbeat right now. Not sure if any of you watched/listened to our game but Wolves totally played us off the park and our grinning Goal Keeper Ben Foster put in one of his worst performances. Even if we had Sarr last night it would of made little difference.

I know your lot got stuffed by Slippy G's Aston Vanilla - and I looked and that result in the context of ours and thought "we are both in some serious crap". Btw, I really like your new manager. He's very upfront with problems and tells it how it is. We are stuck with a OAP who needs to retire and has absolutely no clue how to organize a side - let alone battle against relegation.

I have always had a soft spot for Leeds, and I admire you use youth and experience to get push you forward. Our squad has an average age of 32/33. We have kept the same back line since 17/18 and people wonder why we ship so many goals. Anyway, just wanted to wish you all the best for the rest of the season (not long left now), I do not think we will meet again after the reverse fixture at Vicarage Road, I think your lot will do enough over the final games and stay up. Everton will probably do the same. I personally think it's Norwich, Watford and Burnley for the drop.

Ada x

Oh I do hope you are right Ada, even though it will be your mob that go down. Horrible for a fan to see the same old dinosaurs coming through the door, because if you go down you’ll have to start again with a new manager.

[The Subhuman]

Recognise all of the above re Feckinarse, the deck was stacked against him, but it was his refusal to shoulder any responsibility for results and performances that really grated with me. Something Bielsa, rightly or wrongly, always did. You wash your dirty linen in private, you don't hang players out to dry.

Marsch has been here 5 minutes, so it would be unfair to hang the blame on him, but whatever plan he sent those players out with last night, it went wrong from the off and he appeared to be clueless as to how to turn things around. Maybe he is the right man but, if we go down, he has a steep learning curve re the realities of the championship. I'll be there to support, as always, but I fear there may be some short term pain.

Maybe but that may have been a self defence mechanism, he took an awful lot of s**t from the boo boys. Plus a lot of managers are like that.

It looked a little like Marsch was blaming the players a bit and only after two games. Keep losing and that could get worse. It starts and finishes with the manager. The quality of player is not such an issue or there's never an FA cup upset.

[The Subhuman]

Maybe the board had already decided this was to be Bielsa's last season, and failed to back him accordingly. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there'd been trouble behind the scenes all season, and the recent sacking was just the culmination.

Bielsa remained loyal to the players and the club to the last, and even with half a team was still creating chances against the best sides. With the games we had left, and players returning, I still think we had a good chance to get the necessary points.

That hope has gone now. The players' confidence is shot, the system they were drilled in has gone, and we have a manager of no substance who is completely out of his depth.

If, by chance, there are three worse teams come the end of the season, Marsch and Orta should go, and we'll need a rebuild under a new manager. Bielsa is irreplaceable, but we need to be looking at experienced coaches with an established style.

We outplayed West Ham, Newcastle, Burnley, we had quality chances v Everton and a pen or two turned down. We looked every bit as good as Chelsea, got unlucky, also v Manure and again got unlucky... As I say we were much better v Spurs than we were against Villa last night and I did say Leicester were the worst team we've played this season. That should have been an easy 3 points, they had nothing much at all to offer. But we played a semi hoofball game with little imagination and we also slowed the game down at times, letting balls go out for throws, and have you noticed we take ages to take a throw now?