The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 25th March) With Radrizzani at the helm, are we seeing Ridsdale V2.0

[Ellandback1]

Ellandback1 strives every weekday morning to find a topic for his breakfast debate to get everyone talking. (No one else bothers) I'd say he's succeeded this morning by the amount of posts its received....
Keep it going Matt, it's very much appreciated

Thx Swanny

[Ellandback1]

Dont disagree that he makes a great effort but to compare and owner who dragged us out of the doldrums and contributed to some of the best Leeds times in two decades to the owner who put us in that mess in the first place rightly should be challenged.

Challenge away.

Ridsdale was better then GFH, Bates and Cellino in my opinion.

[Rook]

Challenge away.

Ridsdale was better then GFH, Bates and Cellino in my opinion.

That's like being regarded as the nicest bloke in prison.

[The Subhuman]

Challenge away.

Ridsdale was better then GFH, Bates and Cellino in my opinion.

Well that's certainly a group to aspire to and be linked with .....

[Kennyb41]

Not sure which is worse though. Radz pocketing the dosh or giving it to Orta , imo giving it to Orta is a complete waste as the bloke hasn't a clue what he is doing, he is totally out of his depth , clueless .......numpty. First thing Radz should do is get a director of football in with an actual clue , knows what they are doing and can get something done. Let Orta go to Barca , one way you could be sure they then wouldn't get Raph......I am to be honest pretty resigned to Raph and Phillips going , get decent money and have someone ( that isn't Orta ) spend it wisely and decently in positions requiring upgrading . While Orta is at the club , the club will not progress imo .

Spot on.

And whilst reading that a lightbulb moment came, fck the Monkey off and bring Bert in as DOF.

[Jaydog]

That's like being regarded as the nicest bloke in prison.

Yeah defo. And that total idiot Ridsdale was the Mr Big who f...ed you up the arse when you dropped the soap.

[Ellandback1]

That's like being regarded as the nicest bloke in prison.

There are many decent people in prison, whether they're a victim of circumstance, or made a really poor judgement call.

My father was a top criminal/litigation solicitor for 40 years. He told me that there are not as many 'evil' people in prison as you would think.

I know I would be in the minority here, but I lay as much blame on DOL as I do Ridsdale.

[The Subhuman]

Oh DoL as much to blame, it's why he won't get in my top Leeds managers. Both were culpable in setting back Leeds almost 20 years. Rads has very little wrong which is quite remarkable for a rookie when he arrived. The signing of Christiansen and the sacking of Bielsa are the big two for me. But both are defendable

[Rook]

There are many decent people in prison, whether they're a victim of circumstance, or made a really poor judgement call.

My father was a top criminal/litigation solicitor for 40 years. He told me that there are not as many 'evil' people in prison as you would think.

I know I would be in the minority here, but I lay as much blame on DOL as I do Ridsdale.

To be honest with you mate, I've often wondered what would have happened at Leeds if we hadn't have sacked him.

Would we have fallen apart as we did under Terry Venables in that terrible 2002/03 season.And as quickly as we did.

[William]

Challenge away.

Ridsdale was better then GFH, Bates and Cellino in my opinion.

I did

[Ellandback1]

Oh DoL as much to blame, it's why he won't get in my top Leeds managers. Both were culpable in setting back Leeds almost 20 years. Rads has very little wrong which is quite remarkable for a rookie when he arrived. The signing of Christiansen and the sacking of Bielsa are the big two for me. But both are defendable

[Clacton White]

Well that's certainly a group to aspire to and be linked with .....

Bates is/was the worst by a country mile imo .I don't see how any could ever be as bad as Bates was for the club .

[Overman]

Bates is/was the worst by a country mile imo .I don't see how any could ever be as bad as Bates was for the club .

Bates was the worst by far, a proper shyster who asset stripped the club for years. Though the fans who supported him for years weren't much better. I recall the narrative around him being a 'shrewd businessman' or 'we don't want to do another Risdale'. All too easily mugged off.

[mentalcase]

Bates was the worst by far, a proper shyster who asset stripped the club for years. Though the fans who supported him for years weren't much better. I recall the narrative around him being a 'shrewd businessman' or 'we don't want to do another Risdale'. All too easily mugged off.

How was he even allowed anywhere near our club is embarrassing.
He said in the 80's " I will do everything in my powers to get the Leeds scum kicked out of the league" then we allow him to own us !!
Shocking how that could happen, a crook of the highest calibre.

[Overman]

How was he even allowed anywhere near our club is embarrassing.
He said in the 80's " I will do everything in my powers to get the Leeds scum kicked out of the league" then we allow him to own us !!
Shocking how that could happen, a crook of the highest calibre.

Followed by a bunch of skint Arab chancers and a narcissitic Italian coke head. You really couldn't make it up.

[hector]

Followed by a bunch of skint Arab chancers and a narcissitic Italian coke head. You really couldn't make it up.

I did like Cellino... at least he has a personality, and he absorbed most of the financial s**t that Bates and the skint Arabs left behind...

[VinnysTattoo]

Followed by a bunch of skint Arab chancers and a narcissitic Italian coke head. You really couldn't make it up.

At the end of GFH’s tenure we were close to going under and things were looking bleak. Didn’t their”management fees” cost us a transfer embargo because it took us over the allowed debt? City’s Arabs are the Ferrari of the money world and investment. Our Arabs were an Austin Maxi.

Radrizanni has his faults but compared what’s come before he is a saint.

[Changnoy]

Ridsdale was better then GFH, Bates and Cellino in my opinion.

May i suggest that it was because of Ridsdale that we ended up with GFH, Bates and Cellino in the first place....and 16yrs in the wilderness.

[Ellandback1]

I did like Cellino... at least he has a personality, and he absorbed most of the financial s**t that Bates and the skint Arabs left behind...

Best bit was when Cellino locked the Sky Camera's out of Elland Road....

[Ellandback1]

May i suggest that it was because of Ridsdale that we ended up with GFH, Bates and Cellino in the first place....and 16yrs in the wilderness.

Hey Changnoy, and welcome to the forum.

EVERY decision Ridsdale made, was approved and backed by the board (before they threw him under the bus).

O'Leary more than played his part in Leeds downfall., and before he was fired, a large number of players approached the Chairman to say they could no longer work under O'Leary.

When about the (alleged) bung / close association DOL had with infamous agent, Rune Hauge!

DOL (allegedly) signed paperwork on behalf of the club gifting Olivier Court representation after Decourt had already agreed terms with Leeds. The same thing happened with an interpreter, shelling out several hundreds of thousands, even though Decourt could speak perfect English. Once documentation was signed, it was impossible for LUFC not to honour it.

Anyone puzzled that O'Learys Managerial career was cut very short?

Ridsdale made mistakes, lots of them, but at least he owned up to them.