Watford 0-3 Leeds Utd Match Thread - POST MATCH DEBATE!

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Premier League
09/04/2022
Vicarage Road
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31
Played
13
Won
7
Drawn
11
Lost
-4
GD
42%
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Away record
15
Played
6
Won
4
Drawn
5
Lost
+2
GD
40%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
02/10/2021 Elland Road 1–0 W Premier League
20/02/2016 Vicarage Road 1–0 L FA Cup 5th Round
28/02/2015 Elland Road 2–3 L Championship
23/08/2014 Vicarage Road 4–1 L Championship
08/04/2014 Vicarage Road 3–0 L Championship
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#PlayerGoals
1 Robert Snodgrass 3
2 Ross McCormack 2
3 Robbie Blake 2
4 Clarke Carlisle 2
5 Michael Bridges 2
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Goa Meslier
Def Ayling
Def Llorente
Def Cooper ©
Def Dallas
Def Koch
Mid Klich
For Moreno
Mid Harrison
Mid James
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faaip wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:29 pm Second attempt at an answer ?
It’s a rhetorical question. No need for an answer.
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Cjay wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:03 pm Phillips played against Brighton and Palace and Brentford (didn't win any of those either).

Liam Cooper played in all those as well, and Bamford has played in more games this season for Bielsa than Marsch (alot more), didn't win any of those games he played in either.

This constant Bielsa was hard done by on injuries debate as an excuse is total nonsense.

We weren't winning games with those 3 fit!!!!!!!
As I implied in my earlier post, Cjay :tup:

It's in black & white all over the internet

Furthermore, I was at several of those games witnessing how average we were.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:05 pm You've been told once, STOP THROWING GRENADES !!!
Just making a valid point :-D
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Bielsa or Marsch, who’s the best. There’s only one way to find out. FIGHT!
Come on Marcelo kick him in the nuts.
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Jesse Marsch told Cooper he was the best captain he's ever worked with.

Apparently, Liam was in tears.
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Jaydog wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:34 am If we go down on goal diff who exactly (might) be to blame
Great question, here is my take, just for fun... and no offence meant.

KIich for going through the back of that Chelsea git and us taking nothing away from Stamford Bridge as a result. One point lost.

Meslier for ballsing up that FC against Newcastle. Ditto

Firpo for missing a sitter in the away game against Newcastle when we were a goal up and cruising. Two points lost

Shackleton for giving the ball away in the last minute of the WH home game and us losing that late. One point

Raphinha for getting called up for his nation and missing a game for us as a result. Three points

Junior Firpo, Tyler Roberts, Jack Harrison, Daniel James, Diego LLorente or who ever is the lightning rod of choice that week for the knee jerk burn everything mob after a bad game.

Charlie Cresswell, Joseph Geldhart and Greenwood for getting injured.

Kalvin Philips and Patrick Bamford for being made out of Jacobs cream crackers.

Going back further...

Marcello Bielsa for helping Leeds to promotion in 2020, the ba***rd, why couldn't he have told Orta and Radz no and left us to kick around the championship where we were happy, talking about Don Revie and Johnny Giles and what might have been had Eric not had an eye for someone else's missus? ( allegedly) Or why couldn't he have showed up, took the money and not bothered his arse instead of living and breathing Leeds United 24hrs and day 7 days a week.

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Gerd Muller
Ray Tinkler ( look him up)


The Factory Act of 1850 which granted the great unwashed a half day on a Saturday and what better way to spend it than down the footy as this led to the formation of the Football League.


Ripples on the pond of life.


I enjoyed that.
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Jaydog wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:41 pm Bielsa or Marsch, who’s the best. There’s only one way to find out. FIGHT!
Come on Marcelo kick him in the nuts.

I reckon Marcelo would win with a Shoryuken dash cancel into Ultra combo finish!!
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William wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:10 pm Great question, here is my take, just for fun... and no offence meant.

KIich for going through the back of that Chelsea git and us taking nothing away from Stamford Bridge as a result. One point lost.

Meslier for ballsing up that FC against Newcastle. Ditto

Firpo for missing a sitter in the away game against Newcastle when we were a goal up and cruising. Two points lost

Shackleton for giving the ball away in the last minute of the WH home game and us losing that late. One point

Raphinha for getting called up for his nation and missing a game for us as a result. Three points

Junior Firpo, Tyler Roberts, Jack Harrison, Daniel James, Diego LLorente or who ever is the lightning rod of choice that week for the knee jerk burn everything mob after a bad game.

Charlie Cresswell, Joseph Geldhart and Greenwood for getting injured.

Kalvin Philips and Patrick Bamford for being made out of Jacobs cream crackers.

Going back further...

Marcello Bielsa for helping Leeds to promotion in 2020, the ba***rd, why couldn't he have told Orta and Radz no and left us to kick around the championship where we were happy, talking about Don Revie and Johnny Giles and what might have been had Eric not had an eye for someone else's missus? ( allegedly) Or why couldn't he have showed up, took the money and not bothered his arse instead of living and breathing Leeds United 24hrs and day 7 days a week.

Further

Gerd Muller
Ray Tinkler ( look him up)


The Factory Act of 1850 which granted the great unwashed a half day on a Saturday and what better way to spend it than down the footy as this led to the formation of the Football League.


Ripples on the pond of life.


I enjoyed that.
yeah, that total c... Bielsa for getting us here in the first place. ba***rd.
Oh and you forgot Jesus in between pond life & 1850. He invented the cross don’t forget.
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Jaydog wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:27 pm yeah, that total c... Bielsa for getting us here in the first place. ba***rd.
Oh and you forgot Jesus in between pond life & 1850. He invented the cross don’t forget.
William and Jaydog :lol: :lol:

Cheered me up no-end reading those.
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Watched the full 90 minutes last night.

My analysis up later .
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1964white wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:40 am Watched the full 90 minutes last night.

Mu analysis up later .
Why did you sit through 90 mins of Everton’s game v MU prior to ours?
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William wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:10 pm Great question, here is my take, just for fun... and no offence meant.

KIich for going through the back of that Chelsea git and us taking nothing away from Stamford Bridge as a result. One point lost.

Meslier for ballsing up that FC against Newcastle. Ditto

Firpo for missing a sitter in the away game against Newcastle when we were a goal up and cruising. Two points lost

Shackleton for giving the ball away in the last minute of the WH home game and us losing that late. One point

Raphinha for getting called up for his nation and missing a game for us as a result. Three points

Junior Firpo, Tyler Roberts, Jack Harrison, Daniel James, Diego LLorente or who ever is the lightning rod of choice that week for the knee jerk burn everything mob after a bad game.

Charlie Cresswell, Joseph Geldhart and Greenwood for getting injured.

Kalvin Philips and Patrick Bamford for being made out of Jacobs cream crackers.

Going back further...

Marcello Bielsa for helping Leeds to promotion in 2020, the ba***rd, why couldn't he have told Orta and Radz no and left us to kick around the championship where we were happy, talking about Don Revie and Johnny Giles and what might have been had Eric not had an eye for someone else's missus? ( allegedly) Or why couldn't he have showed up, took the money and not bothered his arse instead of living and breathing Leeds United 24hrs and day 7 days a week.

Further

Gerd Muller
Ray Tinkler ( look him up)


The Factory Act of 1850 which granted the great unwashed a half day on a Saturday and what better way to spend it than down the footy as this led to the formation of the Football League.


Ripples on the pond of life.


I enjoyed that.
I've just come back from taking the mutt out to read the above :clap: :clap: :clap:

Perked me up no end, gets my vote for best post since i've been a member here, thanks for taking the time for that and the thought.

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Cjay wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:03 pm Phillips played against Brighton and Palace and Brentford (didn't win any of those either).

Liam Cooper played in all those as well, and Bamford has played in more games this season for Bielsa than Marsch (alot more), didn't win any of those games he played in either.

This constant Bielsa was hard done by on injuries debate as an excuse is total nonsense.

We weren't winning games with those 3 fit!!!!!!!
Erm we beat Palace 1-0. Struyjk playing at left back, Tyler Roberts as a striker so whilst the injury situation wasn't as bad we still had issues and two players were subbed at half time.

Brighton we drew 0-0 against. Not a great performance but again missing a striker and again 2 substitutions having to be made at half time, one of which was Kalvin Phillips going off. A point away from home wasn't a bad result and shows that, like the Palace result, how we seem to defend better when we have Llorente and Cooper playing together.....

Brentford we drew 2-2 against. Cooper went off injured after 15 minutes, with the score at 0-0 (so interesting in these 3 fixtures we didn't concede a single goal when Liam Cooper was on the pitch). Kalvin Phillips was subbed after 55 minutes (basically straightaay after Brentford scored their first goal (can't help but wonder if KP being injured played a part in Brentford getting their equaliser).

I wouldn't want to hire you as my lawyer Cjay as I think with these 3 fixtures you listed you have actually proved how important Cooper, Phillips and Bamford are. With Cooper on the pitch we conceded 0 goals. With KP on the pitch we conceded just 1 goal whilst he was injured and about to come off). With Bamford out we scored 2 goals in 2 matches and 68 minutes (one from a penalty and one from Tyler Roberts). With Bamford on the pitch for 27 minutes (including injury time) we scored 1 goal, courtesy of Bamford himself.

5 points from those 3 games.
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Stop throwing fact grenades Weasel, they'll come back and bomb ya with GD.
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GD is such a weak argument
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It's all they've got.
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Whose GD. Another Rangers player. All these initials are confusing. You need to spell it out for the idiots. Like me.
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Grot and Douglas.

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Ah, I thought it was goal difference.
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faaip wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:23 am GD is such a weak argument
GD can be the difference between places and league status?

How is it a weak argument? Goal difference matters in the grand scheme?

If you lose 1-0 and your opponent loses 5-0 week in week out then by the end of the season goal difference will send your opponent down.

It's a very important thing.
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