QPR v Leeds Utd - Post Match Discussion

[Kennyb41]

I hope Ipswich can fellen off a cliff soonish.

[Jaydog]

Going back to the betting you when bet365opened up QPR we’re a generous 11to2!we were a stingy 4to9 They trimmed Qprs odds to 9to2 probable when Bamford was ruled out 9to2was available with William Hill the match day

Very likely. Odds compilers take note of all the little details

[1964white]

Surely those are all coaching issues same as the midfield having 11 shots between them?

If we can't score or defend set pieces you look at the manager first.

Coincidentally set piece issues and Farke aren't new.

Nobody has conceded more goals than Norwich’s 37 in 18 games, with 11 of them (30 per cent) coming from set pieces — actually an improvement on the 37 per cent figure from their Championship title-winning success (21 out of 57) and in keeping with 38 set-piece concessions from 117 goals (32 per cent) in Daniel Farke’s two second-tier seasons with Norwich.

Stolen from an Athletic article.

No, we have players with limitations in their locker.

We are no way good enough to compete in the PL.

[Cjay]

No, we have players with limitations in their locker.

We are no way good enough to compete in the PL.

That goes for the manager as well presumably?

Besides players without limitations don't play 2nd division football.

[Kennyb41]

No, we have players with limitations in their locker.

We are no way good enough to compete in the PL.

Yes, we most certainly have Sid.

Mes - Has constantly been ' a work in progress' ...'flappybird '...'panic ridden'.....but DF has used him well via tactics.....a clown buy

Gray - DF unearthed him, don't forget that - Nobody else ever used him to such good effect - A complete bonus from DF for us.

Firpo - Virtually unplayable by any previous managers inc Bert - Another clown buy, and credit to DF again for finding a use.

Byram - A free biscuit, and mainly rejected by others, but DF used him well on the left when we had no one, a shrewd quick fix.

Ampadu - £5m, hardly breaking the bank.

Rodon - Rejected by Spurs, but DF has used him instrumentally

Kamara - £5m , hardly breaking the bank innit ?

Summerville - No other manager has seen fit to use him at all, DF turns him into poty in the Championship - No credit for that?

Rutter - Looks like the clown spent £35m on a gamble, I've seen some nice stuff, and i've seen some shite, and that's just in the Championship, is he a world beater even at this level ?

James - Does okish in the Championship, and again, no world beater.

Piroe - Has starred at Swansea, who btw, DIDN'T win promotion with him.


These players are not all that good ^

One is moaning, but one is forgetting, it is DF that has got the best out of them and made them look something like, so much so, that one now reckons they are good players, because DF has made them look good.

Quite simply, they are not.

[1964white]

That goes for the manager as well presumably?

Besides players without limitations don't play 2nd division football.

I highlighted in an earlier post there are aspects of our game we don't excel in, unlike other clubs.

We need to recruit players in the summer with the credentials/skills we are sadly lacking.

I never get excited about us gaining a corner or a free-kick, pointless as they often lead to nothing.

[Orange Box]

Yeah. That’s the joke. He hates of when it should be have. Keep up

I wish I’d never of started this fecking fing in the firstest place. Fecking geronimo.

[Cjay]

Sorry but opposition fans seeing us playing the "oh dear look how weak our squad is line" would pish themselves laughing.

The QPR fan who was on here or the Millwall fan ask them if they'd like Dan James on the bench or Piroe or Conor Roberts or even Charlie Cresswell.

The Ipswich goalie was signed from Accrington Stanley.

The left back was one we decided was crap.

The midfielder they bought off the bench tonight has a career best 8 goals in league 1, only done similar once before in non league.

The main striker tonight had played 40 games before in the Championship, 0 goals before this season

But we are playing the oh how awful our squad is card?

Last time our most used sub was in the Championship he scored 8 goals and got 6 assists for the team that finished 2nd.

Our next most used sub is former Championship player of the year and double Championship promotion winning Bamford.

After that it's Willy Gnonto who we rejected 20+million for in the summer.

And after that it's Piroe who Farke was given £15mil to buy (a record fee for basically the whole league) and is the top Championship open play goalscorer over the last 2 years.

Ipswich most used subs include league 1 journeyman Marcus Harness who was has never played regularly above league 1 and Kayden Jackson whose 30 with 2 double figure seasons in his career.

Seems a bit rich and lacking awareness playing the awful squad card when you look at our competitors.

Look at who WBA have on the bench or Norwich or go back look at the bench under MB.

Those are what Championship squads usually look like.

Personally I think it's a bit embarrassing playing that card, rate the players or not but pedigree wise it's levels above what you get in this league.

Absolutely miles.

[Cjay]

I highlighted in an earlier post there are aspects of our game we don't excel in, unlike other clubs.

We need to recruit players in the summer with the credentials/skills we are sadly lacking.

I never get excited about us gaining a corner or a free-kick, pointless as they often lead to nothing.

But why ignore the fact Farke is the common denominator ?

Norwich had huge issues as well.

[Jaydog]

I wish I’d never of started this fecking fing in the firstest place. Fecking geronimo.

I agree. You should never have of started it.
At least Geronimo is happy now with Everton doing so well.

[BlackHillsPaul]

Yes, we most certainly have Sid.

Mes - Has constantly been ' a work in progress' ...'flappybird '...'panic ridden'.....but DF has used him well via tactics.....a clown buy

Gray - DF unearthed him, don't forget that - Nobody else ever used him to such good effect - A complete bonus from DF for us.

Firpo - Virtually unplayable by any previous managers inc Bert - Another clown buy, and credit to DF again for finding a use.

Byram - A free biscuit, and mainly rejected by others, but DF used him well on the left when we had no one, a shrewd quick fix.

Ampadu - £5m, hardly breaking the bank.

Rodon - Rejected by Spurs, but DF has used him instrumentally

Kamara - £5m , hardly breaking the bank innit ?

Summerville - No other manager has seen fit to use him at all, DF turns him into poty in the Championship - No credit for that?

Rutter - Looks like the clown spent £35m on a gamble, I've seen some nice stuff, and i've seen some shite, and that's just in the Championship, is he a world beater even at this level ?

James - Does okish in the Championship, and again, no world beater.

Piroe - Has starred at Swansea, who btw, DIDN'T win promotion with him.


These players are not all that good ^

One is moaning, but one is forgetting, it is DF that has got the best out of them and made them look something like, so much so, that one now reckons they are good players, because DF has made them look good.

Quite simply, they are not.

No, he is not a world beater at this level. He's a turnover machine. So happy that I'm not the only one that feels this way about Rutter. He is NOT a Premier League level player.

[Kennyb41]

There are 22 clubs below us, including Ipswich.

And only 1 above us.

DF has had 9 months, and 2 half windows.

He has earned at least 1 more year, whichever league that may be.

[Kennyb41]

We are 18pts in front of WBA btw.

[pandagirl]

I’m confused. When you say might not get in the play offs do you mean might not get promoted through them??

Hi friend
i mean at this rate, im worried we might even slip out of playoff places
are we mathematically locked in for play offs?

[JoeDenver]

No, he is not a world beater at this level. He's a turnover machine. So happy that I'm not the only one that feels this way about Rutter. He is NOT a Premier League level player.

Completely agree, Paul. He needs more time to develop to become PL level player. But honestly, I don’t see a PL level no 10 on him… I see more of a winger due to his tendency to knock the ball far away from himself while dribbling… he’s also got an almost magical ability to win penalties when on the side edges of the box. Given that, I’d prefer to have him out wide while seeing what Gnonto can do in the 10 spot. Kid plays there for Italy so am a bit amazed that DF hasn’t given him a run out there by this point in the season.

[Kennyb41]

Give credit when deserved.

When it isn't I don't.

He's been found massively lacking in the run in as a tactician and a coach.

You watched QPR game presumably?

That was pathetic from the players and him.

He got away with 1 vs Boro thanks to an offside goal then set up exactly the same way.

If and big if but if we are still 2nd vs Southampton he has 1 more chance to show he has learned lessons.

Last time vs Southampton he got it totally wrong.

If Coventry do us a favour he has another chance to show he can learn.

He hasn't shown that much this season.

All the negatives you can find yet again.

What about all the positives, are there none at all ?

The amazing run, when he even virtually shut you up, clawing back 17pts and the runaway 2, what about beating those top 2 home and away with spot on tactics ?

He is in part a victim of his own success, even you have been saying these players are good, take Jimmy for example, how good is he actually huh ? A one trick pony, go on tell me ALL abart him ?

But he's the Championship POTY dontcha know ??? !!! Is that not coz of the system he plays in ? That mainly goes down the left you so negatively point out that DF only uses ?? So is something not right on the left ?


What abart all the sq pegs he's used and moved around to good effect, that we haven't even noticed coz he got them playing ok (you'd have pounced on that little gem !) Archie being a prime example, who has had more good games than bad ones, down to DF, and he ain't even a 'specialist' RB as you'd say.

Iraola turned us down, and we didn't go for Knutsen, and the petulant child has been spitting his dummy in and out ever since, throwing stats about left right and centre till some suit his narrative.

I could go on, but can't be arsed, because you just wait to pounce on any manager that doesn't suit your stathead.

[Kennyb41]

Sorry but opposition fans seeing us playing the "oh dear look how weak our squad is line" would pish themselves laughing.

The QPR fan who was on here or the Millwall fan ask them if they'd like Dan James on the bench or Piroe or Conor Roberts or even Charlie Cresswell.

The Ipswich goalie was signed from Accrington Stanley.

The left back was one we decided was crap.

The midfielder they bought off the bench tonight has a career best 8 goals in league 1, only done similar once before in non league.

The main striker tonight had played 40 games before in the Championship, 0 goals before this season

But we are playing the oh how awful our squad is card?

Last time our most used sub was in the Championship he scored 8 goals and got 6 assists for the team that finished 2nd.

Our next most used sub is former Championship player of the year and double Championship promotion winning Bamford.

After that it's Willy Gnonto who we rejected 20+million for in the summer.

And after that it's Piroe who Farke was given £15mil to buy (a record fee for basically the whole league) and is the top Championship open play goalscorer over the last 2 years.

Ipswich most used subs include league 1 journeyman Marcus Harness who was has never played regularly above league 1 and Kayden Jackson whose 30 with 2 double figure seasons in his career.

Seems a bit rich and lacking awareness playing the awful squad card when you look at our competitors.

Look at who WBA have on the bench or Norwich or go back look at the bench under MB.

Those are what Championship squads usually look like.

Personally I think it's a bit embarrassing playing that card, rate the players or not but pedigree wise it's levels above what you get in this league.

Absolutely miles.

Ok.

And who bought the vast majority of our feckin garbage huh ? Who assembled DF's trash ?

You throw around multi million pound figures as if DF spent it all, he is still sifting thru the shite, whilst managing to make some look okay.

We have a guy on here that worships the circus ground the clown walks on, a guy who normally puts the feckin kiss 'o' death on anything LUFC when he starts with his devils advocate lying.

In fact i can now pinpoint our demise to when Faaip started drumming home to the thread that this is Orta's 'baby'!

Oh Jesus, that's all i needed to realise ffs, What. A. Feckin. Clown.

I still remember the 'Ayling moment' well, perhaps tha should keep tha gob shut fella.

[DDB220]

Hi friend
i mean at this rate, im worried we might even slip out of playoff places
are we mathematically locked in for play offs?

I have written and deleted about 10 different answers to your question.

But for simplicity’s sake the answer is Yes.

[DDB220]

OB - tbh I should OF picked up on your humour as a fellow satirical acolyte.

Incidentally it is very difficult to use OF instead of HAVE - spell check / predictive script goes into a tail spin.

As you alluded to the result had me on edge with was added to by the woe merchants emerging from literary hibernation.

[Sean_Nile]

And wWe have a guy on here that worships the circus ground the clown walks on, a guy who normally puts the feckin kiss 'o' death on anything LUFC when he starts with his devils advocate lying.

To demoralize the Devil will always accentuate the negative.. . having the appearance of wisdom but the end thereof is death.