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Stoke City
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Paul Tierney

Leeds lost ground with the Championship pacesetters after an inexcusably poor performance at strugglers Stoke City.

Leeds just couldn't find their rhythm, and produced some of the most shocking football seen in a long time. Stoke weren't much better, but at least put a shift in. They lacked creativeness, confidence and composure, all the trademarks of a struggling Championship outfit, yet Leeds made them look like Barcelona. Neither team looked like scoring, that is, until ten minutes from the end, when Leeds skipper Pascal Struijk nodded the ball into his own net from two yards, after bouncing awkwardly off the cross bar.

Five minutes earlier, Leeds should have put the game to bed, after Bamford, was clumsily bundled over in the penalty box. The ref had no choice, but to point to the spot. Whether it was a good idea to allow a player, who had only just stepped onto the pitch to take a penalty never entered the players minds. Before it could be debated, Bamford had already skied his first touch, almost of the stadium!

There are undiscovered indigenous tribes from deep within the Amazon rain forest that could have put on a better spectacle. The vague hope that the game could only improve as the match progressed, forced many to endure the torment, with the expectancy that things could only get better - little did we know!

Line Up
Nat
Match Events
1
Meslier, Illan
Goalkeeper
France
22
Gray, Archie
Midfielder
England
25
Byram, Sam
Defender
England
21
Struijk, Pascal
Defender
Netherlands
14
Rodon, Joe
Defender
Wales
4
Ampadu, Ethan
Midfielder
Wales
44
Gruev, Ilia
Midfielder
Bulgaria
12
Anthony, Jaidon
Midfielder
England
29
Gnonto, Wilfried
Midfielder
Italy
7
Piroe, Joel
Forward
Netherlands
24
Rutter, Georginio
Forward
France
Subs
Nat
Match Events
10
Summerville, Crysencio
Midfielder
Netherlands
9
Bamford, Patrick
Forward
England
20
James, Daniel
Midfielder
Wales
27
Poveda, Ian
Midfielder
England
2
Ayling, Luke
Defender
England
26
Darlow, Karl
Goalkeeper
England
Unused Sub
17
Shackleton, Jamie
Midfielder
England
Unused Sub
6
Cooper, Liam
Defender
Scotland
Unused Sub
8
Kamara, Glen
Midfielder
Finland
Unused Sub
References
LEEDSTATS: Leeds United Season 2023/2024
Sheridan Dictates: Season Statistics 2023-24
Leeds United Programme Guide: Season 2023/24
Norwich City 2-3 Leeds United (21st Oct 2023)


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mentalcase wrote on 26 Oct 2023 07:06 pm

Sean_Nile wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:47 pm Farke has rated archie at right back but it has been noticeable that both Stoke and Norwich have targeted him with their fast wingers and he has had difficulty in times dealing with that.

Seems that the managers of other teams have noticed that he is a 17-year-old and they have a sought to exploit his inexperience at right back which is not his natural position.

They find a weak pressure point and then that is where they attack.
Exactly this, it's what perplexes me about DF, he is a very astute manager, knows the league inside out, yet makes some odd decisions to say the least.
Ayling & Shackleton are better RBs imho than Archie, Archie had some good play going forward, but defending it was clear from probably 30 mins in, he was lost, ball watching whilst his man had a free header, if that had been one of ours missing that , well, no more need saying.
Simply putting Archie as RB to compensate for Gruev say, is plain daft or does he see Archie as permanent RB !! Hope not.
We still don't know about Gruev or Anthony , but he must have thought Stoke were going to be beatable to change his winning team, along with not starting Sommerville who's been on fire, then not changing things early enough.
A bad bad day, these things happen, but there are glaring reasons for it.
Despite this, I'm still confident in DF, but he needs to get his starting 11 sorted quickly.

AcrossThePondAsh wrote on 26 Oct 2023 06:40 pm

lufc1304 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:02 am Absolutely Ash. In an ideal scenario, DF is in at the start of the summer, business inward and outward is concluded in a timely manner and he has a number of weeks to assess what he has. He wasn't afforded that luxury, and whilst you can try different combinations in training, it's no substitute for actual games. It's all well and good playing your best 11 every game, and again you'd do that if you could, but the championship is attritional and change will be inevitable at some point, whether through injury, suspension or loss of form. DF isn't infallible, he got last night wrong, but I can see the reasoning behind the changes he made and I'd be surprised if that performance, or lack thereof, didn't inform his thinking going forward. It's a old adage, but you learn more in defeat than you do in victory.
Exactly, LUFC. For instance, in terms of "data," DF now has seen both Gruev and Anthony in starting roles and playing extended minutes in his system in a match situation. Granted, it's with a grain of salt as the entire team was off--the whole "a rising tide lifts all boats" (or perhaps in this instance, an ebbing tide), but it's still a valuable data set nonetheless.

geronimo wrote on 26 Oct 2023 02:45 pm

we are also up against the fact, that no matter what position in the league, these teams we play, they will inevitably raise their game and play out of their skins simply because we are the prized scalp in this division , that does not excuse the fact that these teams should be battered if we want promotion
no doubt stoke will lose their next few games and everybody will be questioning why we didnt beat them

1964white wrote on 26 Oct 2023 02:30 pm

Cjay wrote on 26 Oct 2023 01:50 pm

Maybe we are just flat track bullies?

Take Ipswich out and we have only beaten bang average teams and no other top half teams despite having arguably a top 2 squad.

14th
13th
23rd
16th
15th
2nd

Those are our wins.

Lost to
5th
12th
17th

Drew with
8th
7th
6th
24th

Have 1 win vs teams in the top half from 6