Leeds Utd 1-4 Tottenham Hotspur - WHY WAS WOBER SUBBED?

[andrewjohnsmith]

I got away from the football completely, just found out about the score but considering how the season has panned out ,not surprised. If you are a streak without a win , you want Leeds , almost guaranteed an end to a streak like that unless you are Leeds on that streak , is it nine without a win? Anyway , I escaped all this and am right now at Lake Garda , Italy . I even forgot about football for a few days .

I thought that was a quote from Andrea Radrizzani

[weasel]

Dreadful. I would have locked the home dressing room door and sent most of our first team home with a P45 in there hands , this was a spineless passionless performance, for a set of players not fit to wear a Leeds united shirt.
Ortas fetish for signing Kids when we needed a striker and a defender or two has undone us.
And i know the rose tinted glasses mob will disagree but most of the kids he signed wont make it. Rooney was sixteen and able to grace a first team. Some of our so called prospects are in the 20,s and have been found wanting in the first team.
I have been watching leeds since 1968 and this was by far the worst team effort I have ever seen.
major surgery is required. there are about 4 players with enough quality and desire, the rest need to be signing up for Tranmere Rovers or Forrest green if the can hack it.

Or if they do it is because they are good enough for the championship but we were a premier league side. The 2 brightest prospects in the youth set-up though would appear to be Cresswell and Gray - neither of which were brought to the club by Orta.

[andrewjohnsmith]

I recall when somebody in the West stand was having a row with Orta.( well publicised on Sky etc).
I said at the time, I don't know what that guy is saying, but I agree with him'.

Me too

[weasel]

The goal just before half time at palace was a huge turning point, I am convinced something happened at half time as a result of that goal and the team havnt looked themselves since. Yes we were porous at the back and made mistakes all season but we looked like a team and still played some ok stuff, after that half time break we have looked especially poor lacking any kind of cohesion and fluidity - my money would be on Mckennie been a toxic influence on the squad.

I just can't see it being McKennie given that Gracia continued to play him and then Allardyce did too. Even if Gracia had been told he had to pick him I can't see Allardyce going in and being forced to play him by the board or deciding to pick him if he though he was a bad egg. I just don't think McKennie was a particularly good player for us.

[John in Louisiana]

How will i be able to watch the games abroad next season ?

In the US games from the Championship are shown on ESPN+

[malcolmw]

Same with Gnonto and Summerville today.

Seems to dislike young players

The way he treated Rutter was extremely poor.

Threw him under the bus multiple times in public (kept a half fit Rodrigo on because he had nobody else).

Rutter did well today

But worse for me is starting fatso McKennie alongside 1/2 fit Rodrigo. I can't honestly think of a poorer decision on the day. Summerville, Gnonto, Rutter, Greenwood, any of the U21's would have been better. It almost amounts to sabotage.

[White Riot]

Yeah - classic smokescreen stuff coming from the boardroom soon.

Yeah, same old shite.

Happy clappers will be lovin it

New ten year contracts gonna be thrown around like confetti

Gotta keep that Championship gang together

[andrewjohnsmith]

I just can't see it being McKennie given that Gracia continued to play him and then Allardyce did too. Even if Gracia had been told he had to pick him I can't see Allardyce going in and being forced to play him by the board or deciding to pick him if he though he was a bad egg. I just don't think McKennie was a particularly good player for us.

There was talk of it being Roca too.

Either way, we didn't have many midfielders to pick from. So one of them could have been a problem but still being picked out of necessity.

If McKennie was a problem he did seem to have a turnaround, He came out and said the twitter comments had nothing to do with him and actually started playing OK after that.

[White Riot]

But worse for me is starting fatso McKennie alongside 1/2 fit Rodrigo. I can't honestly think of a poorer decision on the day. Summerville, Gnonto, Rutter, Greenwood, any of the U21's would have been better. It almost amounts to sabotage.

Maybe Sam likes McKennie cos he's a fat lazy pie eating cnut like himself

[whiteinfrance]

In the US games from the Championship are shown on ESPN+

Just noticed we can get espn+ on firestick

Should we get all our games on there John?

[malcolmw]

Maybe Sam likes McKennie cos he's a fat lazy pie eating cnut like himself

Picked the team together over a tub of Ben & Gerry's

[whiteinfrance]

He should have shared the pies with Aaronson

[malcolmw]

Just noticed we can get espn+ on firestick

Should we get all our games on there John?

Won't LUTV show all the games
Or do we have to pawn our cameras?

[Phild]

No feelings at all today.
Those all went last weekend.
2 Good signings in 5 years is all owners and management have given us,( Bielsa and Ralph)
The only thing pissing me off today is lack of presence or words from those in control.
No better than others we have had over the years.

[White Riot]

Picked the team together over a tub of Ben & Gerry's

Came to fisticuffs over the last scoop

[Broad Ford]

So the Championship is confirmed and it doesn't bother me too much because I've been expecting it over the last month. I'm now kind of hoping, almost expecting Leeds United to storm the Championship like that crappy club Burnley have just done by finishing 21 points clear of 3rd placed crappy Luton.

Leeds fans now need to understand just how much power they hold as a collective and by holding back their cash, until their concerns are addressed is a way to effect change. By staying away from the stadium until Orta was relieved of his duties as creator of chaos LUFC might still now be in the Premier League. In future we should be using social media to effect change at the club by influencing decisions at board level and until the board listens to our concerns / ideas then the social media campaigns continue.

Together we too can storm the Championship.

[White Riot]

No feelings at all today.
Those all went last weekend.
2 Good signings in 5 years is all owners and management have given us,( Bielsa and Ralph)
The only thing pissing me off today is lack of presence or words from those in control.
No better than others we have had over the years.

Sums it up Phil

I was distraught when we went down in 2004.

This time I never felt anything.

Two seasons of shite will do that to you.

[Cjay]

But worse for me is starting fatso McKennie alongside 1/2 fit Rodrigo. I can't honestly think of a poorer decision on the day. Summerville, Gnonto, Rutter, Greenwood, any of the U21's would have been better. It almost amounts to sabotage.

His treatment of Gnonto, Summerville and Rutter for me show what a dinosaur he is.

Pick the oldest tallest players you can and hope for the best.

[Barlow Boy]

Just back home from the game, and I feel nothing. I don’t feel dissapointed we are going down, I’m not upset, angry or anything. It might hit me in a few days, but at the mom ent, just nothing.

I’m not in the least bit surprised by what I saw today. A bunch of gutless, bottleless limited players who don’t look as if they particularly care either way.

If I was in charge, I’d throw everything at Adams and beg him to stay and build a team around him. I doubt he will, but he could make the difference.

[Cjay]

I'd only keep Tyler Adams, but no chance he'll be staying.

Some talk he isn't the professional behind the scenes people think.

Like tends to attract like and he is best mates with McKennie.

Aaronson on the other hand is apparently the epitome of professional.

I'd rather see the back of McKennie and Adams.