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Stoke City v Leeds United
Stoke City
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1–0
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25/10/2023
bet365 Stadium
Leeds United
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All-time record vs Stoke City
99
Played
49
Won
20
Drawn
30
Lost
+31
GD
49%
Win %
Away record
49
Played
17
Won
8
Drawn
24
Lost
-31
GD
35%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
09/07/2020 Elland Road 5–0 W Championship ↗
27/08/2019 Elland Road 2–2 D Carabao Cup 2nd Round ↗
24/08/2019 Bet 365 Stadium 0–3 W Championship ↗
19/01/2019 Bet 365 Stadium 2–1 L Championship ↗
05/08/2018 Elland Road 3–1 W Championship ↗
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1 Peter Lorimer 11
2 Joel Piroe 6
3 Billy Bremner 6
4 Mick Jones 5
5 Don Weston 5
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22 Gray
25 Byram
21 Struijk ©
14 Rodon
4 Ampadu
44 Gruev
12 Anthony
29 Gnonto
7 Piroe
24 Rutter
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26 Darlow
17 Shackleton
6 Cooper
8 Kamara
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Re: Stoke City v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Gruev starts as Farke makes three changes

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This is why bamford ayling and cooper should be nowhere near the team even as cover they ain't good enough
That penalty gets put away we win
It was nailed on they would go down the other end and score
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:19 pm Can't wait for tomorrows debate, especially when Ian comes on and mentions the "pile on" against bamfraud again, like it isn't justified.
He's on ignore thankfully :roflmao: No doubt we're all mean and negative
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Re: Stoke City v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Gruev starts as Farke makes three changes

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The Jury's out on Anthony and Gruev

Anthony has performed in the Prem and Farke sees something in Gruev

They need time to integrate
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:19 pm Gruev didn't look good enough. But I'll give him a pass as it was his first start.

Anthony looking like a useful sub. But I wouldn't depend on him as a regular starter.
My sentiments as well, very strange team selection, DF has to shoulder all the blame including putting bamfraud on.
Kamara and Ampadu work far better than 2 holding midfielders.
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:19 pm Can't wait for tomorrows debate, especially when Ian comes on and mentions the "pile on" against bamfraud again, like it isn't justified.
I have no doubt we have fans on here who will defend that feeble performance :shock:
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whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:15 pm If Farke is prone to the mistakes he made tonight how did he get 2 promotions?
Cause we bottled it in one of them!
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I blame it all on Farke today
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Re: Stoke City v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Gruev starts as Farke makes three changes

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Jaydog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:12 pm Bamford is my main issue from tonight. Really shouldn’t be taking a pen. I presume barring the changes it would be Piroe. Would like to have seen him take one for future reference. Or Georgi with a panenka maybe.
Edit. Bamford got the pen I suppose but still.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:22 pm Cause we bottled it in one of them!
Please explain
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whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:15 pm If Farke is prone to the mistakes he made tonight how did he get 2 promotions?
Not having two teams win an average win rate of 85% after 13 games in those seasons would certainly have helped!

Currently no room for mistakes for an automatic place this year, hence we won’t be there this season, whatever happens for playoff places.
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Rutter a great player but he's crap at putting the ball in the net

So also not a pen taker
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whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:24 pm Please explain
The first season under Bielsa. If we hadn't bottled it, they wouldn't have gone up. So our bottling played its part.

There's never been a season like this when two sides win every week and almost never drop points.
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1964white wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:19 pm How many more points are we going to drop to poor teams, whilst Leicester & Ipswich keep winning?
I fear the gap is too wide now

Maybe Ipswich will have a collapse
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whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:21 pm The Jury's out on Anthony and Gruev

Anthony has performed in the Prem and Farke sees something in Gruev

They need time to integrate
True, White. He was a Bournemouth fan favorite during their preseason and has brought a spark of the bench in other matches for us. It's honestly hard to judge a first full performance when the whole team is not playing up to par.
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whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:26 pm Rutter a great player but he's crap at putting the ball in the net

So also not a pen taker
Especially after his miss v Salford

Sods law we get one when a proven penalty taker is subbed off
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:26 pm I fear the gap is too wide now

Maybe Ipswich will have a collapse
We'll lose more than Ipswich imo
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geronimo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:20 pm This is why bamford ayling and cooper should be nowhere near the team even as cover they ain't good enough
That penalty gets put away we win
It was nailed on they would go down the other end and score
steady on, cooper didn't play tonight and ayling got 5 mins!
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:23 pm Rutter missed in shoot out v Salford
…… and Summerville didn’t put his hand up for the first five takers. Piroe being off the pitch took the obvious choice. Personally, I’d have given it to Meslier before Bamford.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:23 pm Rutter missed in shoot out v Salford
I would’ve accepted anyone bar Bamford. It’s a very flawed logic to let him take one.
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geronimo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:20 pm This is why bamford ayling and cooper should be nowhere near the team even as cover they ain't good enough
That penalty gets put away we win
It was nailed on they would go down the other end and score
Have to agree with you there, Geronimo.

I said to my Mrs after the penalty miss, Stoke's tails will go up now & score an untidy goal to win it.

As soon as that corner was awarded, I knew that was the moment that things would get worse.

We deserved the defeat, hopefully we'll learn lessons from what was a disgraceful display.

We'll beat the terriers on Saturday.
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