Against the law in Saudi mick.Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:57 pm Fury was s**t but boxed behind the jab landed more punches . Stats also suggest he wins this. Ngannou what a humble fellow thought he won,no histrionics about the decision and made a fortune. I'd like to see him In with Aj or Wilder that would be fun. Now people have seen him box they may work out a better strategy, who knows. A big powerful man with out doubt
Trouble is a judge's decision is subjective and based on their criteria . Oh and their probably bent![]()
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I have just watched the fight again and at best Fury scrapes a draw, he was doing a lot of holding and lunging against a MMA fighter who was stronger than he bargained for and who put him on his arse (10/8 round).Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:57 pm Fury was s**t but boxed behind the jab landed more punches . Stats also suggest he wins this. Ngannou what a humble fellow thought he won,no histrionics about the decision and made a fortune. I'd like to see him In with Aj or Wilder that would be fun. Now people have seen him box they may work out a better strategy, who knows. A big powerful man with out doubt
Trouble is a judge's decision is subjective and based on their criteria . Oh and their probably bent![]()
I think he was unprepared as Ngannou had never boxed before and he thought that he could get him out of there quick, to be fair Fury looked slow unmotivated and I don't think he had a full on12 week hard training camp which needs to change if he's getting in with Usyk.
Let's be honest no one one gave Ngannou nothing more than a punchers chance and the Fury's soon buggered off quick cancelling the post fight presser, tells me that Fury got lucky.
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I'd probably agree with all that...BradWhite wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:19 am I have just watched the fight again and at best Fury scrapes a draw, he was doing a lot of holding and lunging against a MMA fighter who was stronger than he bargained for and who put him on his arse (10/8 round).
I think he was unprepared as Ngannou had never boxed before and he thought that he could get him out of there quick, to be fair Fury looked slow unmotivated and I don't think he had a full on12 week hard training camp which needs to change if he's getting in with Usyk.
Let's be honest no one one gave Ngannou nothing more than a punchers chance and the Fury's soon buggered off quick cancelling the post fight presser, tells me that Fury got lucky.
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I think not being schooled in boxing turned to Ngannou advantage , he did unorthodox stuff but had brutal strength that Fury underestimated, tough s**t on Fury for maybe taking it lightly. Anyway there is ,more to the boxing world than Fury and the sooner he realizes the better......as they say once he is gone , the king is dead , long live the king...the new one. It has coped without Ali , Holmes , Tyson ( the real one ) , Lewis, Louis etc.......Fury won't be missed, his will he won't he fight .... whoever....is getting very tiresome and not good for the sport. WBC should just strip him of the title , get shot of him .
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Agreed. Its become a circus whenever the Fury's are involved. This era of Heavyweight boxers are not fit to lace the boots of the Mike Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield generation. I will never watch a crossover event personally and i have the means to do so. The drama is a farce.Clacton White wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:33 am Fury is a walking contradiction, not interested in money , yet he is on about % and what Usyk is worth ( who has 3/4 of the available belts.....go figure ) . He isn't interested bin his legacy yet rates himself as the greatest ...but unlike other greats of their eras he has ducked most of the best of the current crop.....Chisora ? Whyte ? Do me a favour , they are slow journeymen .I think with Chisora he just gave him a payday, Whyte is essentially the same fighter. To me the whole Fury clan has bought boxing into disrepute with their silly games and shenanigans.
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Hopefully Mike Tyson doesn't hold back. . . .
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He’s 58. Must need the money badly. He could in theory knock that blokes head off. God knows why anyone pays to watch that nonsense
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Is it money or pride? Bit of both?
Tyson is doing OK financially apparently, got into the weed business and makes millions
Whatever the reason this was literally last month
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Weed business??
Marijuana?
He’ll kill that bloke. He looks good for his age.
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Yes Marijuana he started a company few years ago.
It's done very well and is now worth tens of millions of pounds.
He does, looks very decent for a near 60 year old man
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If i could be 100% confident it was a fair fight in the murdering regime, i'd put quite a large wager on Nganno to beat Joshua toneet @ 7/2
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Real Boxing is in danger of becoming a relic. Who wants to watch a real Boxing fight when you can watch a guy with 100 million followers on Facebook face a 60 year Monster.
Suddenly no one is talking about Fury Usyk its small fry for the social media crowd.
Suddenly no one is talking about Fury Usyk its small fry for the social media crowd.
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Blame Saudi for throwing billions at boxing, fair do's that the boxers make even more money fighting over there but the atmosphere is stale and that reflects on the fights (IMO)
Usually the ring side seats are occupied by people preferring to be on their phones all night.
Ngannou has quite a backstory, Imagine if he beats Joshua and then beats the winner of Fury/Usyk for undisputed heavy weight champion, that is a real Rocky story.
Joshua should win as Ngannou isn't a boxer but I just think he will come unstuck if Ngannou lands solid on his chin.
Usually the ring side seats are occupied by people preferring to be on their phones all night.
Ngannou has quite a backstory, Imagine if he beats Joshua and then beats the winner of Fury/Usyk for undisputed heavy weight champion, that is a real Rocky story.
Joshua should win as Ngannou isn't a boxer but I just think he will come unstuck if Ngannou lands solid on his chin.
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He can take one, and he can throw one, I don't want him to beat Fury, but i'd love to see him take the Rocky story to fruition if Fury retires after UsykBradWhite wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:04 pm Blame Saudi for throwing billions at boxing, fair do's that the boxers make even more money fighting over there but the atmosphere is stale and that reflects on the fights (IMO)
Usually the ring side seats are occupied by people preferring to be on their phones all night.
Ngannou has quite a backstory, Imagine if he beats Joshua and then beats the winner of Fury/Usyk for undisputed heavy weight champion, that is a real Rocky story.
Joshua should win as Ngannou isn't a boxer but I just think he will come unstuck if Ngannou lands solid on his chin.![]()
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I know styles make fights , but watching AJ -Ngannou last night , if that AJ and the Fury that fought Ngannou turn up together, I think AJ wins easily , by KO probably....but Fury has to get past Usyk first . This Ngannou has improved as a boxer since his ...other...fight , I do think he could do a job on a few of the better heavyweights.
Parker did well to beat Zhang , but Zhang runs out of steam later in fights , probably age and size reasons.
Seen highlights of Iron Mike training.....boy , in his prime he would destroy any of today's heavies.... too fast by far , powerful and a brilliant mover in his day .
Parker did well to beat Zhang , but Zhang runs out of steam later in fights , probably age and size reasons.
Seen highlights of Iron Mike training.....boy , in his prime he would destroy any of today's heavies.... too fast by far , powerful and a brilliant mover in his day .
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That was a very impressive dismantling of Ngannou by AJ
I'm pleased for him and hope he goes on to brighter and better things.
Classy interview after the fight. Not bothered to celebrate the win, just getting on with business and continually emphasizing how he can help younger boxers develop. Most boxers really do take a classy approach to life.
It'll be interesting to see how things go between Fury and Usyk, I heard that they have already signed up for a rematch regardless of what will happen in the first fight, dunno if that's right?
But AJ, seems happy and prepared to wait and take whoever succeeds on.
As he indicated, the defeats have helped him to learn and be a better person
And what a KO punch btw
I'm pleased for him and hope he goes on to brighter and better things.
Classy interview after the fight. Not bothered to celebrate the win, just getting on with business and continually emphasizing how he can help younger boxers develop. Most boxers really do take a classy approach to life.
It'll be interesting to see how things go between Fury and Usyk, I heard that they have already signed up for a rematch regardless of what will happen in the first fight, dunno if that's right?
But AJ, seems happy and prepared to wait and take whoever succeeds on.
As he indicated, the defeats have helped him to learn and be a better person
And what a KO punch btw
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I really like Fury, he's an excellent fella outside boxing, I just think the longer he goes on, he'll end up like his namesake Mike, addicted to the fight game and washed up.
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IMO Fury was awful against Ngannou, I don't think he even trained for that fight the way he will for Usyk, he was well out of shape and treated it as an exhibition fight, that's what happens when boxers get complacent and ego takes over.
Ngannou is not a boxer, look how he squared up to Joshua, flat and off balanced and then he switched to southpaw leaving himself wide open to Joshua's right hand.
I'm glad Joshua showed that MMA fighters do not belong at the top table of boxing, specially against a 2 time world champion and olympian.
I would give Joshua zero chance of beating Ngannou at MMA.
I hope all this silly cross over and z list celebrity YouTube stuff is now put to bed, although I see above that Mike Tyson v Jake Paul is signed and I hope Mike ends this nonsense too.
Fury has 2 fights with Usyk (rematch clause is there what ever the result) then the winner gets Joshua but that is likely to be next year so Joshua has to keep busy so put him in with Dubois.
Ngannou is not a boxer, look how he squared up to Joshua, flat and off balanced and then he switched to southpaw leaving himself wide open to Joshua's right hand.
I'm glad Joshua showed that MMA fighters do not belong at the top table of boxing, specially against a 2 time world champion and olympian.
I would give Joshua zero chance of beating Ngannou at MMA.
I hope all this silly cross over and z list celebrity YouTube stuff is now put to bed, although I see above that Mike Tyson v Jake Paul is signed and I hope Mike ends this nonsense too.
Fury has 2 fights with Usyk (rematch clause is there what ever the result) then the winner gets Joshua but that is likely to be next year so Joshua has to keep busy so put him in with Dubois.
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Sadly Brad i think the YT Boxing is still got some way to go yet. When Paul is throwing money around like confetti it will be too tempting for most retired fighters, Celebs or whoever takes part.