Nottingham Forest v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Big Kev on the bench!

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Nottingham Forest v Leeds United
Nottingham Forest
Nottingham Forest
2–0
Championship
08/02/2020
City Ground
Leeds United
Leeds United
All-time record vs Nottingham Forest
107
Played
35
Won
35
Drawn
37
Lost
+3
GD
33%
Win %
Away record
54
Played
11
Won
19
Drawn
24
Lost
-17
GD
20%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
10/08/2019 Elland Road 1–1 D Championship
01/01/2019 City Ground 4–2 L Championship
27/10/2018 Elland Road 1–1 D Championship
01/01/2018 Elland Road 0–0 D Championship
26/08/2017 City Ground 0–2 W Championship
All-time top scorers vs Nottingham Forest
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1 Peter Lorimer 13
2 Eddie Gray 5
3 Allan Clarke 4
4 Luciano Becchio 4
5 Johnny Giles 4
Starting XI
Goa Casilla
Def Ayling
Def Cooper ©
Def White
Def Alioski
Def Dallas
Mid Hernandez
Mid Klich
Mid Costa
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
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-- Berardi
-- Struijk
-- Stevens
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Re: Nottingham Forest v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Big Kev on the bench!

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BobHirst wrote: I'm saying that I think we are more reliant on KP than I thought we were. I'm attributing his absence as a contributing factor to why we were 'dire' as you say. Maybe Klich would have created more chances if KP had been there playing in his normal position and Klich had been in his.
My misunderstanding..apologies. Yes Phillips is important as we don't possess anyone else.

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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:53 pm Also there's really nothing stopping you. You wouldn't be the first and you won't be the last
I would be really really happy right now if I did.
Probably feels a bit better than what I am feeling like.
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BGwhite wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:56 pm Watching Bielsa post match interview...f**k me if I had to listen to this everyday I'd struggle to play any good as well. ImageImage

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I listened to 5 minutes of one MB presser when he first arrived and thought this is intelligible and never listen since. My guess is the reporter asks the question, something gets lost in the translation, Bielsa starts a speech and then something gets lost in the translation...
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Ben white in dm doesnt work, that was another error from MB.

Lolley gave him the run around.
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All members of the team will be hurting, psychologically and physically, after that game.
They need the comfort of knowing we still love our players and we still embrace them as human beings.
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faaip wrote: I listened to 5 minutes of one MB presser when he first arrived and thought this is intelligible and never listen since. My guess is the reporter asks the question, something gets lost in the translation, Bielsa starts a speech and then something gets lost in the translation...
Surely this not good for players having to sit through it and try to understand him. The half time team talk must seem like University Challenge to all of them ! I'm losing my belief in the guy and he quickly needs to pull something out of the bag before the crowds turn on him...we all know it will happen eventually.

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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:51 pm Sent off why? For the good tackle in our box or was there a bad one I missed?
He had already been booked and then a bit later his opponent got by him and he grabbed his arm from behind and pulled him back onto the ground. The ref gave a free kick and I believe the Forest players were correct in questioning the referee why it wasn't another yellow. It was one of those where the ref gives it if the player didn't already have one.
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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:52 pm Forest the first team to out play us this season so far...did someone say they're not very good.
I did say I feared for us after SKY showed all our misses against Wigan and then the goals from Forests last three games. Banging them in for fun they were....
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Outplayed by a side that most of their own fans don't know how they win games. Damming indictment of our lot isn't it.
If the same team gets put out against Brentford you'd have to say Bielsa has gone completely barmy. Good job he's not Hecky or TC.
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I said all I had to say last week, so won't be wasting further energy on these clowns. Maybe some posters will see that I'm not "negative" just honest.
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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:47 pm Cooper swearing at his players and NOT boosting them. V poor captain
Dont mind a Captain doing that.

Shout, swear, do whatever.

Problem is captains who do that tend to perform to a higher standard and expect that from their teammates.
Patrick Vieira, Roy Keane, Steven Gerrard, Rio Ferdinand etc.

All used to yell

With Cooper its a case of glass houses.
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Absolutely fuming, gutted, hurting and pissed off this was worse than loosing against Wigan at least we were the better team then, tonight was poor, the players have bottled it and just don’t have an idea how to score or defend

Got to make changes against Brentford but I don’t think Bielsa will

Kiko drop for Meslier
Costa drop for Little Ian
Bamford drop for anyone including the ball boy but preferably Big Kev
Dallas drop for Kalvin - difficult choice as he’s been one of our better players this season but we need to change things up

Please Bielsa do something now before we become the bottlers the entire league hopes we are
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Cjay wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:33 pm Dont mind a Captain doing that.

Shout, swear, do whatever.

Problem is captains who do that tend to perform to a higher standard and expect that from their teammates.
Patrick Vieira, Roy Keane, Steven Gerrard, Rio Ferdinand etc.

All used to yell

With Cooper its a case of glass houses.
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BobHirst wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:11 pm He had already been booked and then a bit later his opponent got by him and he grabbed his arm from behind and pulled him back onto the ground. The ref gave a free kick and I believe the Forest players were correct in questioning the referee why it wasn't another yellow. It was one of those where the ref gives it if the player didn't already have one.
Their big DMF hacked down Pablo early, then committed another bad foul, then another one before he got booked for a fourth.

He should have been off first had the ref brandished reds
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Cjay wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:33 pm Dont mind a Captain doing that.

Shout, swear, do whatever.

Problem is captains who do that tend to perform to a higher standard and expect that from their teammates.
Patrick Vieira, Roy Keane, Steven Gerrard, Rio Ferdinand etc.

All used to yell

With Cooper its a case of glass houses.
It's the way he did it ....
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Ratscoot wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 pm Absolutely fuming, gutted, hurting and pissed off this was worse than loosing against Wigan at least we were the better team then, tonight was poor, the players have bottled it and just don’t have an idea how to score or defend

Got to make changes against Brentford but I don’t think Bielsa will

Kiko drop for Meslier
Costa drop for Little Ian
Bamford drop for anyone including the ball boy but preferably Big Kev
Dallas drop for Kalvin - difficult choice as he’s been one of our better players this season but we need to change things up

Please Bielsa do something now before we become the bottlers the entire league hopes we are
Dallas to lb and drop alioski (who should have been sent off today and was generally poor) would make more sense to me
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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:43 pm It's the way he did it ....
What do you mean?
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It looked like it was abusive to me from the body language...Not encouraging, Alio didn't have that bad a game, we know he's not a defender, we know it's he's a poor tackler.
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faaip wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:43 pm It's the way he did it ....
I missed that, was that when Ali gave away the FC in the second half?
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Think that was more giving away a free kick knowing we can't defend them. Think I'd be pissed off as well he is a serial offender.
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