Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:41 pm
That is your perogative.
I appreciate everything MB has done for us but I am a Leeds fan not A Marcelo Bielsa one when allnis said and done.
At no point however have I said he should be sacked I must add but I feel deeply concerned and think that is with valid reason.
I understand your concerns Cjay, every Leeds fan shares them, and we were shocking today - but we have the same squad till January, and I feel the need to support and encourage them till the club has a opportunity to make changes.
I still believe we can stay up with Bielsa at the helm, in fact I think we’d tank with a mid-season change, so why don’t we get behind him in the interim?
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:42 pm
Struijk at DM does not work. Why is Forshaw asked to play the advanced midfield role when he is more suited to DM. Just head scratching starting selection and the changes were equally as strange.
The only reason I think a change could benefit us is with transfers. Bielsa has this idea that we should only sign players that are better than what we have which is something we can all get behind but it falls down due to his over inflated opinion on most of our squad. If a new manager came in it would be a fresh pair of eyes and more likely to make the needed changes.
At the end of the day we are all, to a lesser or greater extent, supporters of LUFC, but I don't believe that anyone of us watching that performance today could be other than very worried about what league position we will finish in. I have supported Leeds since 1962, but that performance ranks in the top 5 for ineptitude. I watched it with some non Leeds supporter mates and it was embarrassing. Even Raphinha looked subdued today.....something has gone wrong....let's hope it can be sorted !!
Cumbriarents wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Good hard battle point. Forshaw is a class player even after years injured. We always get beat by the seagulls but not today
Agree mate, we'd have lost that game without Forshaw, who played a lone role in our non-existent midfield.
Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:48 pm
I understand your concerns Cjay, every Leeds fan shares them, and we were shocking today - but we have the same squad till January, and I feel the need to support and encourage them till the club has a opportunity to make changes.
I still believe we can stay up with Bielsa at the helm, in fact I think we’d tank with a mid-season change, so why don’t we get behind him in the interim?
I actually agree I don't think a change in manager would help because of the limited squad we have built (which is in itself a real concern for future seasons).
If the performances were decent it would be easier to take your view (wish I could) but I find it very hard to get behind a team that plays like we have this season.
If we had had performances like Brighton have today(play well but not win) it would be easier, we haven't
WhiteRose wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:06 pm
The only reason I think a change could benefit us is with transfers. Bielsa has this idea that we should only sign players that are better than what we have which is something we can all get behind but it falls down due to his over inflated opinion on most of our squad. If a new manager came in it would be a fresh pair of eyes and more likely to make the needed changes.
Let's be honest, if we signed E Harland he wouldn't play hime for 2 months until he deemed he matched his perfecting requirements, Roberts would be still in front! Unlikely we would ever do though as he is not a winger.
Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:02 pmEvery time we hear from them they are positive. Confused enough to get us a point today, hopefully they’ll lose the plot entirely and win a couple.
Tbf they are never going to throw him under the bus.
Human nature though will lead to doubts if they don't see results soon.
Leicester players lost faith in Ranieri months after he helped them make history, our players would be no different with Bielsa eventually i am sure.
KP criticising our game management was a concern and he absolutely did that last week.
Not saying the players are ready to mutiny but it wouldn't be that surprising if privately they had concerns surely?
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Bielsa hasn't got long with performances like that, if we'd have lost it would be much worse, the next 2 games will be his saviour.
Harrison yet again in the starting 11, waste of a player, he got Firpo booked inside 5 minutes, ultimately rendering him useless (not that he's proved any other like)
James as CF !!!!!! Joe Gelhardt on bench !!!!! WTF Bielsa !!!
Looks like he's getting used to the idea of keeping forshaw as our new signing, maybe even KP going in January, f@ck knows whats going on.
"Critics are men that watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors"
60sUnited wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:06 pm
At the end of the day we are all, to a lesser or greater extent, supporters of LUFC, but I don't believe that anyone of us watching that performance today could be other than very worried about what league position we will finish in. I have supported Leeds since 1962, but that performance ranks in the top 5 for ineptitude. I watched it with some non Leeds supporter mates and it was embarrassing. Even Raphinha looked subdued today.....something has gone wrong....let's hope it can be sorted !!
Not sure I have ever seen a top level pro play in skins? my kids at 10+12 now refuse to play in these!!
