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Tottenham Hotspur v Leeds United
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12/11/2022
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All-time record vs Tottenham Hotspur
105
Played
33
Won
30
Drawn
42
Lost
-19
GD
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Win %
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52
Played
9
Won
14
Drawn
29
Lost
-35
GD
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Win %
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26/02/2022 Elland Road 0–4 L Premier League ↗
21/11/2021 Tottenham Hotspur Stadium 2–1 L Premier League ↗
08/05/2021 Elland Road 3–1 W Premier League ↗
02/01/2021 Tottenham Hotspur Stadium 3–0 L Premier League ↗
27/01/2013 Elland Road 2–1 W FA Cup 4th Round ↗
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2 Billy Bremner 5
3 Mark Viduka 5
4 Alan Smith 5
5 Rod Wallace 5
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:58 pm It was a stupid challenge Swannie. Adams knew it straight away. I"m not sure he meant to foul him. But he did and got sent off. Adams is our best player. But he's gotta be smarter than that.
That's the Citeh game gone without Adams, even though he was poor today :(
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:07 pm Screenshot 2022-11-12 18.07.03.png
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:29 pm It's right on the line points per game wise for a relegation fight.

Had hoped for a bit of breathing room this season.

In terms of performance tools I suspect we are somewhere around where we are expected to be (14,15th).

It's very close for me.

We saw last season what can happen if teams around us improve 2nd night off the season.

Concerned that we will get caught out again.
Expect Villa, Everton, Forest, West Ham and Wolves to spend spend spend in January too.
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Byebyegeegee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:59 pm Well it’s never boring but you have to say that our defence is poor. Attacking wise we look impressive though. As I predicted a narrow defeat but VAR had one decision to make in the whole match and got it completely wrong and, once again, not in our favour.
Yes, we are scoring goals without a proper No.9, shame about the other end.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:29 pm Ya beat me to it :)
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:32 pm Expect Villa, Everton, Forest, West Ham and Wolves to spend spend spend in January too.
Yeah that's what worries me.

Can see Marsch not kicking up a fuss and Orta and Radz settling.

Being borderline really concerns me.

And the goals we are conceding.
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Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:00 pm Can't find my post where I asked if we should give Robles a run in goal as Meslier is still inexperienced. Everybody that commented took the piss and laughed! I'm laughing at you now...
Robles looked very competent & composed vs Wolves & has done well playing in the U21s
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:04 pm Another decision designed for the elite six.
Don't think I've ever seen a worse decision ... I can only imagine those manning VAR are inept
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:09 pm Also was at fault for marking fresh air as opposed to the man on the edge of box for two of their goals.
Not seen the goals properly yet, may have to adjust player ratings if I get to see a match replay...
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:02 pm No Tyler Adams against Citeh will be a huge loss
Yes, we only have to recall the Fulham game without Tyler.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:31 pm That's the Citeh game gone without Adams, even though he was poor today :(
I didn't think he was poor at all. But the two yellow cards were unnecessary.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:32 pm Yes, we are scoring goals without a proper No.9, shame about the other end.
That's where we differ, I think we have a proper #9 and 9 goals in 10 games playing time tends to agree with that, lethal on his left and in the air, less so on his right
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:07 pm We should all probably miss Man City :|
I'll be there :-D
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Chilli D wrote:The last 4 league games:
Scored 11
Conceded 11
Not difficult to see where the issues are.
Not for us it's not !

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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:33 pm Yeah that's what worries me.

Can see Marsch not kicking up a fuss and Orta and Radz settling.

Being borderline really concerns me.

And the goals we are conceding.
Marsch keeps speaking about it. The issue is Radz blocking 49ers investment. He has to let them invest.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:09 pm Not your fault. People who are behind on watching shouldn't read the comments.
My brother & another mate were watching Sky Sports News updates & relaying the score to me before I witnessed the goals on my TV stream, I switched the volume down & didn't peruse their texts until I felt it was safe to do so, really frustrating!
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:38 pm I'll be there :-D
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:40 pm Marsch keeps speaking about it. The issue is Radz blocking 49ers investment. He has to let them invest.
Marsch was heavily criticised for his teams defending in Germany and Austria.

Red Bull Salzburg fans were not keen despite his titles.

That worries me.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:10 pm I honestly think that we could and should have won that match today.

Ref and VAR made a dreadful decision.

We bossed most of the match, but stupid individual errors cost us three points again.

Jesse must be tearing his hair out with our defending.
This is what you get with the lower quality players James, switching off & making silly errors allowing the class teams to capitalise on such mistakes. Generally it's always the same old liability players who are responsible for our defeats, we can't blame Jack today, we looked a better side without him tbh.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:53 pm Marsch was heavily criticised for his teams defending in Germany and Austria.

Red Bull Salzburg fans were not keen despite his titles.

That worries me.
We haven't defended well since the days of Bartley and Jansson tbh. The board thought we could chance it again after conceding over 80 goals. You might get away with mistakes in the Championship, but not in the PL.
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