Manchester Utd 2-2 Leeds Utd - Match Debate

[Jaydog]

Yawn. Funny how Everton beat Arsenal.

Everton are a very very good side at home.
It’s not wrong to take a bit of positivity out of the game tonight you know. I certainly hope the lads in the dressing room do. They’re going to need every scrap of confidence going forward

[SG90]

But we haven’t - you need to put this result in the right perspective instead of jumping ahead.
Let’s see what happens on Sunday first.

But we can't just assume we're getting 6 points from those games - because we probably wont. We need wins, yes that means against the greedy 6.

[BGwhite]

Yes. I think so.
Already agreed with you re the vital games v Everton & Soton. If we mess up in those we are properly in the shite. But if we get what we need we’ll look back on Manure as a good result. Would you take a point Sunday?

I'd take a point on Sunday absolutely.

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[Jaydog]

Yeah definitely, coz that will be a good point, i think Ten Bob learned more from tonight,

Exactly. Who wouldn’t take 2 points out of the Manure games ffs. Then back it up at Everton & Soton with at least 4 more

[Irish Ian]

Pretty much. Where are the wins coming from if we can't win with a 2-0 lead?

Ok.

If that had been say away to SH or in fact three quarters of the league I would tend to agree.


But context is everything.

We lose two players to injury very early on.
We made them create the chances to score instead of hand it to them on a plate.
Before HT we were clearly getting battered and had a goal line clearance, and couple of great saves and some profligate shooting to thank for going in ahead.
We managed to apply some of the attacking principles instigated by the last two managers and it worked.
We were away from home in a very intimidating environment up against some very highly paid and hugely talented players.
And at 2-2 we dug in and fought for a very well deserved point.

Just my take

[Pullhard]

A couple of injuries picked up tonight to add into the team selection for the weekend.
Unlikely to see a return from concussion in just a few days …. Firpo to start ?
At least we have some options to replace Sini

[1964white]

We played with so much freedom tonight

No one can deny we were a joy to watch, though my heart was in my mouth for the final twenty minutes.

[GreennWhite]

I just am amazed at some peoples negativity after that result. We were/are in a mess going into that game against a team that is playing very well and yet picking up a point away to them is seen as not been good enough. Yes i know we were 2 goals ahead and if we were on a good run of form you could understand being annoyed at letting that slip. Once they scored the first goal it was always going to be a nervous end to the game and yet when they got the second we still managed to hold on.
I have no idea what its going to take for some people to be happy, maybe finding another club to support might be best.

[Kennyb41]

A joy ?

Bloody hell.

[BradWhite]

I'm taking lots of positivity from that tonight, ok we hung on at the end but we proved we can play against scum that are on form.
Just got in, I'm frozen stiff and I need a beer.
Goodnight.

[Kennyb41]

I just am amazed at some peoples negativity after that result. We were/are in a mess going into that game against a team that is playing very well and yet picking up a point away to them is seen as not been good enough. Yes i know we were 2 goals ahead and if we were on a good run of form you could understand being annoyed at letting that slip. Once they scored the first goal it was always going to be a nervous end to the game and yet when they got the second we still managed to hold on.
I have no idea what its going to take for some people to be happy, maybe finding another club to support might be best.

It's been considered for the last 50 odd years, but i always end up back at Elland Rd.

[Boo Radley]

We played with so much freedom tonight

No one can deny we were a joy to watch, though my heart was in my mouth for the final twenty minutes.

As much as you could pick out individual performances tonight, the most satisfying thing was the attitude throughout. Yes, players were released from that tight formation shite, but they worked their nuts off. That rattled those tramps to the core. McKennie and Adams were powerful in the centre. Haven’t seen that toughness in years in a Leeds team.

Take the confidence and belief from tonight and we should manage Everton and Southampton - we absolutely have to really.

[Kennyb41]

I'm taking lots of positivity from that tonight, ok we hung on at the end but we proved we can play against scum that are on form.
Just got in, I'm frozen stiff and I need a beer.
Goodnight.

We did well.

Perspective - They had half a team out, but we held our own, i'm pleased, not delighted.

It was gutsy from us and showed they're up for toughing out a relegation battle ahead, the prick was absent (take that how you want) we had more shape,

Skubs might get better tha knows, then we can finally fck Orta off.

[Carrick Dave]

I wouldn't! Where are the wins going to come from then?

Rubbish. What did you expect from the 2 Man United games then, exactly?

Be specific, how did you expect the Man United home and away games to pan out, if a point away doesn't please you?

Just the usual unspecified negativity. I didn't notice you predicting 6 points before kick-off, maybe I missed it.

[SG90]

Rubbish. What did you expect from the 2 Man United games then, exactly?

Be specific, how did you expect the Man United home and away games to pan out, if a point away doesn't please you?

Just the usual unspecified negativity. I didn't notice you predicting 6 points before kick-off, maybe I missed it.

So we just write off 18 points against the greedy 6 then? So we get 21 points from 11 games? We need to take points from every game if we want to stay up! Why can't we beat them? Brentford beat them 4-0. They aren't unbeatable.

Usual loser mentality from Leeds fans

[BlackHillsPaul]

He was better than Roca, but it was more the shape.

Interested in your thoughts on the shape. I've never claimed to be an expert on tactics. But I saw it as a 4-3-3 behind the ball with two stacked lines of 3. It transitioned into kind of our usual 4-2-3-1 on attack. Except when attacking we often started from wider positions.

[Carrick Dave]

So we just write off 18 points against the greedy 6 then? So we get 21 points from 11 games? We need to take points from every game if we want to stay up! Why can't we beat them? Brentford beat them 4-0. They aren't unbeatable.

Usual loser mentality from Leeds fans

I notice you didn't answer the question.

We're done with deflection now Marsch is away.

Just answer the question. When did you predict 6 points from the 2 Man U games?

Or button it.

[Bongo1874]

We played with so much freedom tonight

No one can deny we were a joy to watch, though my heart was in my mouth for the final twenty minutes.

Spot on.

[SG90]

I notice you didn't answer the question.

We're done with deflection now Marsch is away.

Just answer the question. When did you predict 6 points from the 2 Man U games?

Or button it.

I said we shouldn't be afraid of them in the breakfast thread when everyone said we had no chance of any points against them.

It's only a "good point" if we win on Sunday. Defeat and it's a terrible result.

[Kennyb41]

Interested in your thoughts on the shape. I've never claimed to be an expert on tactics. But I saw it as a 4-3-3 behind the ball with two stacked lines of 3. It transitioned into kind of our usual 4-2-3-1 on attack. Except when attacking we often started from wider positions.

I saw a 4-3-3 in the main dropping into a 4-4-2 possibly a 4-5-1, lots of hardwork, not much of a 4-2-3-1, i think most were caught in two minds a lot of the time, especially whether to go mass hunting or not, which is when we seemed to leave a lot of gaping holes, understandable and can't just expect everything to click on an immediate game after only a few days with Skubs, seemed to me most were told to get out and enjoy themselves, but yeah 4-3-3 in the main with the defence holding to a 4 the vast majority of the time.
I thought you could tell Skubs had nowt to lose and no way was he gonna park the bus, good on him i say, he nearly pulled it off.

Gonna be interesting to say the least at our place, and that, owt could happen, i don't think Weston shone, more a job of work, good enough after being thrown in at the deep end, but he is an international after all, a good team effort all round.