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Re: Manchester Utd 2-2 Leeds Utd - Match Debate

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Mountain wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:25 pm :lol:

I had forgotten the bee in your bonnet about Bielsa's wages.

You used to be very angry when he was on a reported £8 million, I see you've upped it to £11 million. You may be confusing it with the numbers your favourite will get as a pay off!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mpard.html

£11m is a lot to pay for the privilege of being thrashed 6 or 7 nil. Maybe that's why they sacked him.
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1964white wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:00 pm Screenshot 2023-02-09 17.00.00.png
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Kennyb41 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:25 pm This is what i was looking for from ya, i know jack about the guy, am way too lazy to go watching stuff coz it means fck all to me now he's at Leeds with different players around him, i use my eyes going forward :geek:

I'm not looking to have a dig here, but if he's the type of player you say and has all those attributes, it'll do him and his game in the Prem a world of good if he gets himself into tip top 100% fit shape, not only be good for us but he'll catch the eye of the big clubs really fast if he wants to progress, he strikes me like he'd thrive under and with a Bert type obsessive regime till he's absolute tip top, i can then imagine him being a cracker, Roca's another but he seems the sort that wants the easylife route (typical Spanish i want my siesta during a game type)
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Re: Manchester Utd 2-2 Leeds Utd - Match Debate

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pjm2019 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:25 am Great result

Anyone know if Cooper and Roca were injured as not even on the bench
Skubz said they were injured and not included in the prematch interview
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:38 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... mpard.html

£11m is a lot to pay for the privilege of being thrashed 6 or 7 nil. Maybe that's why they sacked him.
:lol:

It seems like you may not have read the article you linked.

If you read it, you'll see where you're going wrong when you tack on another few million.

Either way, your hero, our losingest manager ever in the PL, will be getting a rather huge payout.
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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White Riot wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:20 pm What would you define as a free hit?
Little pressure not much chance of a result.
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Re: Manchester Utd 2-2 Leeds Utd - Match Debate

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1964white wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:21 pm
:lol:

Although reports of Munich chants aren't funny
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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faaip wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:45 pm Little pressure not much chance of a result.
Does that go for all fixtures against teams having good seasons or in terms of recent history out of our league?

Arsenal
Fulham
Brighton
Tottenham
Manchester City
Liverpool
Chelsea
Newcastle
Manure again

All fall into one of those categories.

That leaves us with only 8 fixtures to get probably somewhere in the 15-20point range.
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Cjay wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:00 pm Does that go for all fixtures against teams having good seasons or in terms of recent history out of our league?

Arsenal
Fulham
Brighton
Tottenham
Manchester City
Liverpool
Chelsea
Newcastle
Manure again

All fall into one of those categories.

That leaves us with only 8 fixtures to get probably somewhere in the 15-20point range.
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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faaip wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:01 pmNo
But based on history or this season we have little chance of a result as your definition says . . . .free hit
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Cjay wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:02 pm But based on history or this season we have little chance of a result as your definition says . . . .free hit
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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faaip wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:09 pmYep ....
Hate that term.

No team in the same league should be a free hit.

Such a defeatist doff your cap attitude
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Cjay wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:10 pm Hate that term.

No team in the same league should be a free hit.

Such a defeatist doff your cap attitude
No it isn't..
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Cjay wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:10 pm Hate that term.

No team in the same league should be a free hit.

Such a defeatist doff your cap attitude
I have to be honest, I use that term, not in a defeatest way, merely a pragmatic view of where we are against the money boys, also gives me greater pleasure when we get points out of our "free-hit" games :tup:
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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mentalcase wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:16 pm I have to be honest, I use that term, not in a defeatest way, merely a pragmatic view of where we are against the money boys, also gives me greater pleasure when we get points out of our "free-hit" games :tup:
Fair enough

Just reminds me of being a lower league team

Plucky underdogs in a cup competition.
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Cjay wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:36 pm Fair enough

Just reminds me of being a lower league team

Plucky underdogs in a cup competition.
Just what we are tbh, plucky underdogs in a PL cash laden competition :tup:
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mentalcase wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:20 pm Just what we are tbh, plucky underdogs in a PL cash laden competition :tup:
Underdogs?

Underdogs?????

Leeds we are.

Name says it all.

As soon as the opposition hear we are playing them they write their game off as a free hit.

That's how good we are and always will be.


We had Don Revie and then we had Wilko and after that we had um.... erm well you know what I mean, and our sense of self importance carries us high above the rest of the scummers who have been winning Champions League, have day trips to Wembley on an annual basis and even have soft seats with leg room in their grounds.

Pfft..

We don't need PL cash, no sireee players pay us to sign on. No wage bill

Managers the world over write letters begging to be put on a waiting list to serve.

In fact this week we proved we are so good now we don't even need a manager.

Or so it seems.
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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Irish Ian wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:38 pm

Underdogs?

Underdogs?????

Leeds we are.

Name says it all.

As soon as the opposition hear we are playing them they write their game off as a free hit.

That's how good we are and always will be.


We had Don Revie and then we had Wilko and after that we had um.... erm well you know what I mean, and our sense of self importance carries us high above the rest of the scummers who have been winning Champions League, have day trips to Wembley on an annual basis and even have soft seats with leg room in their grounds.

Pfft..

We don't need PL cash, no sireee players pay us to sign on. No wage bill

Managers the world over write letters begging to be put on a waiting list to serve.

In fact this week we proved we are so good now we don't even need a manager.

Or so it seems.
:duno: Can just imagine a euro spot with no manager, that would piss off the establishment Ian :tup:
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Re: Manchester Utd v Leeds Utd Match Thread - McKennie & Koch In, Roca & Cooper Out

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mentalcase wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:43 pm :duno: Can just imagine a euro spot with no manager, that would piss off the establishment Ian :tup:
Wouldn't it?

Reminds me of the episode of HIGNFY where they replaced John Prescott with a tub of lard.
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