Leeds Utd 1-5 Crystal Palace - Post Match Debate

[JoeDenver]

Excellent!
Could add more to this but still too shellshocked.

Thanks. Still trying to sort the pieces in my head…

[JoeDenver]

Watching again.

Silly fouls outside the box & losing our markers in the box cost us the lead at half-time.

How good was Koch in the first-half? Robin was like a man mountain.

Sam Johnstone saved Palace in the first 45 minutes.

Now for the fiasco

God bless you for rewatching that…a cringe-inducing slow motion train wreck.

[Jaydog]

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Watching again.

Silly fouls outside the box & losing our markers in the box cost us the lead at half-time.

How good was Koch in the first-half? Robin was like a man mountain.

Sam Johnstone saved Palace in the first 45 minutes.

Now for the fiasco

He was like a molehill in the second, soft & useless

[Kennyb41]

Bert created soooooooo many problems by getting us promoted

[Kennyb41]

Hopefully, this result was just an aberration. It is difficult to understand how it all unravelled. We just got blown away in the 2nd half, but you have to give some credit to Palace they won virtually all the 50/50’s and second balls. This was a complete sea change from the first 30 mins, when they completely rattled.

It wasn’t about one or two players it was the whole team that simply just collapsed as a unit.

It's not.

[The Subhuman]

Gnonto looked angry and disinterested when he came on. Perhaps he had the hump at coming on when we were already 3-1 (I think) down.

Because our best player isn't in Gracia's plans it seems.. I'm not buying the injury thing, looked perfectly fine when he came on and as I said before Gracia has left him on the bench before his short injury.

If he's fit he starts, he's better than Jack and he's better than Aaronson depending on where he starts. I rate Jack highly but Gnonto is just a better all round footballer

Gracia's subs are baffling too, I think they've, for the most part, affected the game negatively so far.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Because our best player isn't in Gracia's plans it seems.. I'm not buying the injury thing, looked perfectly fine when he came on and as I said before Gracia has left him on the bench before his short injury.

If he's fit he starts, he's better than Jack and he's better than Aaronson depending on where he starts. I rate Jack highly but Gnonto is just a better all round footballer

Gracia's subs are baffling too, I think they've, for the most part, affected the game negatively so far.

Agree. Problems were all at the back and we did nothing to change it. No change in the back 4 or midfield 2. And he did nothing to change that. Save Ramus for Firpo which didn't change the shape. It sort of says that we don;t have any options to do anything different in the 6 defensive positions.

[1964white]

God bless you for rewatching that…a cringe-inducing slow motion train wreck.

That was a difficult watch second time around, so many errors, I couldn't keep up with the mess

[Cumbriarents]

Just caught the highlights back on sky. What could go wrong in the second half did. The fifth goal was just so unlucky that it landed to Ayew, a member said he laughed when the fourth went in and I have to agree with him, we were just unlucky for some of the goals.

[1964white]

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He was like a molehill in the second, soft & useless

Out of our players who played 90 minutes, only Koch comes out of that game with any credit.

I'm Aaronson's biggest critic, but I don't think he should have been hauled off, or Sinisterra for that matter.

Any one of Harrison, Ayling, Bamford, Roca or McKennie should have been subbed, I'm amazed four of them remained on the pitch.

[1964white]

Because our best player isn't in Gracia's plans it seems.. I'm not buying the injury thing, looked perfectly fine when he came on and as I said before Gracia has left him on the bench before his short injury.

If he's fit he starts, he's better than Jack and he's better than Aaronson depending on where he starts. I rate Jack highly but Gnonto is just a better all round footballer

Gracia's subs are baffling too, I think they've, for the most part, affected the game negatively so far.

I agree with all that post

[1964white]

Just caught the highlights back on sky. What could go wrong in the second half did. The fifth goal was just so unlucky that it landed to Ayew, a member said he laughed when the fourth went in and I have to agree with him, we were just unlucky for some of the goals.

Wouldn't have happened had Roca not lost his runner in midfield & Gnonto having to make a desperate tackle with the ball ricocheting into Ayew's path

[andrewjohnsmith]

Out of our players who played 90 minutes, only Koch comes out of that game with any credit.

I'm Aaronson's biggest critic, but I don't think he should have been hauled off, or Sinisterra for that matter.

Any one of Harrison, Ayling, Bamford, Roca or McKennie should have been subbed, I'm amazed four of them remained on the pitch.

Harrison stayed on on the back of recent performances. But he was largely anonymous yesterday.

When Rasmus was getting ready, it seemed obvious he'd be replacing Ayling. If Firpo was injured, would have made more sense to bring on Cooper and move Strujik over. What's the issue with Cooper? Not even fit enough for 20 minutes - yet he made a sub appearance for Scotland 2 weeks agao.

As for our midfield duo, I don't think Javi trusts anyone else, Might have been worth a short run out for Forshaw.

Most worryingly there was never a structural change. Probably difficult when we're chasing the game. But something needed to change at the back.

[1964white]

Six players culpable of errors for the Ayew headed goal.

[1964white]

Harrison stayed on on the back of recent performances. But he was largely anonymous yesterday.

When Rasmus was getting ready, it seemed obvious he'd be replacing Ayling. If Firpo was injured, would have made more sense to bring on Cooper and move Strujik over. What's the issue with Cooper? Not even fit enough for 20 minutes - yet he made a sub appearance for Scotland 2 weeks agao.

As for our midfield duo, I don't think Javi trusts anyone else, Might have been worth a short run out for Forshaw.

Most worryingly there was never a structural change. Probably difficult when we're chasing the game. But something needed to change at the back.

Jack Harrison looks a million dollars when things are going well

When we are up against it, he is anonymous.

God knows why we are not using Cooper

As for Rasmas, he was poor!

[1964white]

Yesterday was the first time in the club's history that Leeds had scored the first goal in a top-flight home match and then lost by a margin of four goals. It was the first time it'd happened in a top-flight game since April 1957 away at Birmingham City (lost 6-2).

[Irish Ian]

This is from Whoscored.com

Might cheer us up a bit.
Sometimes the opposition are just on it and we pay the price
They wont be that good again this season

[Jaydog]

Yesterday was the first time in the club's history that Leeds had scored the first goal in a top-flight home match and then lost by a margin of four goals. It was the first time it'd happened in a top-flight game since April 1957 away at Birmingham City (lost 6-2).

Comforting

[White Riot]

Comforting

We've broken a few records over the past two seasons and not the plastic variety

[Jaydog]

We've broken a few records over the past two seasons and not the plastic variety

“Hey is that Leeds Utd. No one’s ever conceded 100 goals before, are you up for it”

“No problem, consider it done”