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West Ham United v Leeds United
West Ham United
West Ham United
3–1
Premier League
21/05/2023
London Stadium
Moreno
Leeds United
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All-time record vs West Ham United
114
Played
50
Won
31
Drawn
33
Lost
+21
GD
44%
Win %
Away record
59
Played
15
Won
20
Drawn
24
Lost
-34
GD
25%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
04/01/2023 Elland Road 2–2 D Premier League
16/01/2022 London Stadium 2–3 W Premier League
09/01/2022 London Stadium 2–0 L FA Cup, 3rd Round
25/09/2021 Elland Road 1–2 L Premier League
08/03/2021 London Stadium 2–0 L Premier League
All-time top scorers vs West Ham United
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1 Russell Wainscoat 10
2 Peter Lorimer 8
3 Tom Jennings 8
4 Allan Clarke 7
5 Percy Whipp 5
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Def Struijk
Mid McKennie
Def Koch
Mid Forshaw
For Moreno
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Mid Harrison
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Clitheroe White wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 2:34 pm 50-1 shot we stay up next weekend.
Leicester lose two. Unlikely
Everton lose. Unlikely
We win. Totally not happening.

Radz now stays. 49ers press pause.

What I’d like now is a progressive up and coming manager who can work with our emerging crop of young talent blended with the few experienced players we choose / have to keep.
What we need is an experienced manager who can steady the ship. Last thing we need is taking risks and potentially dropping further.
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Post match Sam said squad is not good enough.

The first 11 or 12 are good enough. But when we need that extra impetus, it's not there.
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You know who didn't get Leeds relegated?

Jesse Marsch.

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Pubrunner wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 2:48 pm This ^^^ sums up exactly how I feel !

Leeds being relegated, will mean that Everton will stay up; they'll have another year of struggling and they will probably go down next year, as they can't afford to spend any money, whereas by going into the Championship, we will be at our 'realistic' level.

We need to start again, hopefully with a younger, hungrier squad of players . . . . . . . who are better than the dross we currently have. We need a clear-out and to start again; we've had too many 'journeymen' players, who simply aren't good enough.

I can't understand why the likes of Cresswell, Hjelde, Drameh, Joseph, Gyabi etc haven't been given opportunities.

I don't feel overly disappointed, because taking everything into account, we simply aren't good enough for the Premiership.

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Bored of the same s**t players every week. Give Archie and Perkins a run out next week.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 3:54 pm Post match Sam said squad is not good enough.

The first 11 or 12 are good enough. But when we need that extra impetus, it's not there.
No they're not. Only really Adams, Sinisterra and Rodrigo look PL level.
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Chilli D wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 2:28 pm In some ways relegation is a relief.
We stay up, and we have most of this squad next season and more of the same.
Who wants that? I don't.
Time for a complete re-set.
I'm with you Chilli. It's no fun watching our club try and compete at a level of competition where we stand no chance. We need to go back down to the Championship and try and build again.

It's going to take a significant upgrade in ownership before we can hope to compete in the Premier League. Right now it's financially impossible.

I think we have the makings of a good Championship level team. But it certainly is going to be an interesting summer! And I expect there will a lot of spirited discussions here on the MOT forum.
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Clitheroe White wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 2:34 pm 50-1 shot we stay up next weekend.
Leicester lose two. Unlikely
Everton lose. Unlikely
We win. Totally not happening
.

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Its only c 9/1.
Everton could still go down with a draw if we win by 3, so they have to go for a win.
Better than no chance and it softens the blow.
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SG90 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:00 pm Bored of the same s**t players every week. Give Archie and Perkins a run out next week.
Gray is with the England 17's
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:02 pm I'm with you Chilli. It's no fun watching our club try and compete at a level of competition where we stand no chance. We need to go back down to the Championship and try and build again.

It's going to take a significant upgrade in ownership before we can hope to compete in the Premier League. Right now it's financially impossible.

I think we have the makings of a good Championship level team. But it certainly is going to be an interesting summer! And I expect there will a lot of spirited discussions here on the MOT forum.
Its going to be tough finding someone to do what Biesa did on a shoestring budget. We will have to see what the 49ers have in store. If the Sampdoria rumours are true then it looks like AR is about to cut his losses and head for the hills. The 49ers couldn't be taking on the club at a worst time in footballing terms. Can we unearth a Kompany??
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 3:54 pm Post match Sam said squad is not good enough.

The first 11 or 12 are good enough. But when we need that extra impetus, it's not there.
Alladyce is a clueless as they come .... I'd be happy if we gave him his 500K now and let the players manage the final game... Complete s**t with the tactics today, worse with the subs
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No manager keeps this lot up unfortunately. Nowhere good enough.
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SG90 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:00 pm Bored of the same s**t players every week. Give Archie and Perkins a run out next week.
Was thinking that when I was watching Rice dancing over the ball and bossing the midfield.

Our two most gifted midfielders are Gray and Gyabi
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Leeds United fans were angry and looked resigned to relegation after the defeat.

Recognise a few of my pals in the photo.


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Barlow Boy wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 2:56 pm The club needs a complete rebuild for me.

Owner argues with everyone on Twitter, DOF did the same but in the ground, Recruitment is dreadful, players low quality despite the relatively big spend, match day experience is s**t, ticketing platform is s**t, service in the ground is s**t, beer is s**t, food is s**t.

As I say, complete rebuild from top to bottom.

Bring back dizzy penalties.
Your post reads even better second time around. :lol:
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1964white wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:55 pm Leeds United fans were angry and looked resigned to relegation after the defeat.

Recognise a few of my pals in the photo.



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They have every right to be angry 64.
The way we have gone backwards in the last two seasons is astonishing and embarrassing in equal measures.
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White Riot wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 3:12 pm Positive news is that we won't need to watch some of these bottle job twats any more :tup:
That's reassuring mate. :lol:
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:02 pm I'm with you Chilli. It's no fun watching our club try and compete at a level of competition where we stand no chance. We need to go back down to the Championship and try and build again.

It's going to take a significant upgrade in ownership before we can hope to compete in the Premier League. Right now it's financially impossible.

I think we have the makings of a good Championship level team. But it certainly is going to be an interesting summer! And I expect there will a lot of spirited discussions here on the MOT forum.
I resigned myself to relegation months ago.

Now looking forward to the championship, as long as the problems within our club are rectified & a structure is implemented during the summer months.
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Chilli D wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 5:30 pm They have every right to be angry 64.
The way we have gone backwards in the last two seasons is astonishing and embarrassing in equal measures.
Receiving texts from several mates down there today about the toxic atmosphere in the away end.

Total mismanagement, Chilli.
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1964white wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 5:28 pm Your post reads even better second time around. :lol:
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