Leeds Utd 0-1 Arsenal Match Thread - Post Match Debate

[becchio bear]

Having watched the coverage so far of the rugby league world cup (big fan of rugby league anyway) I have no idea why their version of VAR is not utilised in football. The refs are miked up, when they go to video decision we hear the decisions and reasonings of the video ref and everyone is satisfied. The players are so more respectful, only the captains approach the ref, not like in football where they surround the ref like a baying crowd of hyenas. They have the stop the clock approach, so take your time idiots makes no difference as it does in football.

What is football so scared of?

[SG90]

Bamford has played 107 minutes of football this season.

He made us tick down the middle today, can't believe he is receiving so much flak.

Because goals win games at the end of the day. Steve Morison was ridiculed for putting in a "shift".

[White Riot]

I'd love to see Archie Gray coming off the bench. Remember Milner all those years ago. If you're good enough, you're old enough.

Me too

Remember when Alan Smith first came through? There was such abuzz and excitement.

Admittedly Bamford is rusty and needs game time, but is he just gonna break down again?
Rodrigo has cost us a number of matches when he's dallied on the ball, when there was an obvious pass to play, got robbed and then the opposition has pillaged is on the counter.

All the good work of Kristensen, Koch, Struijk, Adams and Roca for 90 minutes gets unravelled in seconds each week by players who should have been shipped out quite a while ago.

One step forward and two steps backwards. Our survival is based on others at our level making the same errors and us seizing on them, while they fail to capitalise on our errors.

Been saying it for ages that we need these dead ballers like Ayling, Llorente, Cooper, Firpo, Roberts, Klich, Forshaw and Rodrigo shipped out and better brought in.

Is it any wonder we struggle with that crew hanging around choking our progression?

[SG90]

We can perform against the small minority of 'top' clubs who actually let us play. We don't have the strategy or the nous to break down the teams we need to be beating.

Can't win games with players who can't score! I think we're overdue a win, either Leicester or Fulham. Just need a bit of luck.

[SG90]

Me too

Remember when Alan Smith first came through? There was such abuzz and excitement.

Admittedly Bamford is rusty and needs game time, but is he just gonna break down again?
Rodrigo has cost us a number of matches when he's dallied on the ball, when there was an obvious pass to play, got robbed and then the opposition has pillaged is on the counter.

All the good work of Kristensen, Koch, Struijk, Adams and Roca for 90 minutes gets unravelled in seconds each week by players who should have been shipped out quite a while ago.

One step forward and two steps backwards. Our survival is based on others at our level making the same errors and us seizing on them, while they fail to capitalise on our errors.

Been saying it for ages that we need these dead ballers like Ayling, Llorente, Cooper, Firpo, Roberts, Klich, Forshaw and Rodrigo shipped out and better brought in.

Is it any wonder we struggle with that crew hanging around choking our progression?

Scary to think how much they're taking up a week collectively. It must be close to £500k.

[White Riot]

Scary to think how much they're taking up a week collectively. It must be close to £500k.

Yep, and nobody else wants them is the other part of the equation.

But you can bet your life that Meslier, Kristensen, Struijk, Roca, Adams and Sinisterra will all be scrutinized by clubs that are more ambitious than us.

That's how it is at this level, there isn't such a thing as treading water and surviving. You either progress or you're gone in short order.

[SG90]

Yep, and nobody else wants them is the other part of the equation.

But you can bet your life that Meslier, Kristensen, Struijk, Roca, Adams and Sinisterra will all be scrutinized by clubs that are more ambitious than us.

That's how it is at this level, there isn't such a thing as treading water and surviving. You either progress or you're gone in short order.

Yep. Sadly it looks they'll all be gone on the cheap next summer.

[velo]

That's how it is at this level, there isn't such a thing as treading water and surviving. You either progress or you're gone in short order.

Don't let the board hear this, they think they are doing a good job treading water

[Carrick Dave]

Scary to think how much they're taking up a week collectively. It must be close to £500k.

Not according to any website I can find, for example

https://www.totalsportal.com/money/cont ... -salaries/

Where does your £500k figure come from?

[White Riot]

Yep. Sadly it looks they'll all be gone on the cheap next summer.

And I wouldn't blame them as this is a house built on sand. Short term gain is what Radz is all about.

If they go then it's even harder to bring in quality players as they won't see 17th as an attractive proposition.

I'm not saying Jesse's perfect, but he's in a frustrating position due to the board's approach and I believe he finds it difficult not to show his frustration.

[SG90]

Not according to any website I can find, for example

https://www.totalsportal.com/money/cont ... -salaries/

Where does your £500k figure come from?

That's not correct. Rodrigo is on £100k and Bamford £75k. Kalvin was never on £120k

Dallas is on 55k

[SG90]

And I wouldn't blame them as this is a house built on sand. Short term gain is what Radz is all about.

If they go then it's even harder to bring in quality players as they won't see 17th as an attractive proposition.

I'm not saying Jesse's perfect, but he's in a frustrating position due to the board's approach and I believe he finds it difficult not to show his frustration.

Agreed. That's why making a change won't make a splat of difference. We need new owners.

[Carrick Dave]

That's not correct. Rodrigo is on £100k and Bamford £75k. Kalvin was never on £120k

Dallas is on 55k

But £500k?

[SG90]

But £500k?

Between 9 players. Rodrigo, Llorente, Firpo are on around £250k between them.

[White Riot]

Agreed. That's why making a change won't make a splat of difference. We need new owners.

True, Bielsa and Jesse are not miracle workers and neither will be the next guy, if Jesse is sacked.

Just a short term approach.

No better example than Rodders scoring a few goals before the window closed and Radz says that'll do me folks. Rodders does his shoulder and they're then panicking running round Europe looking for a striker at the last minute and end up with Gnonto.

It's laughable.

[Carrick Dave]

Between 9 players. Rodrigo, Llorente, Firpo are on around £250k between them.

Riot only mentioned 7 players. Where do your figures come from? You never get too specific.

[White Riot]

Between 9 players. Rodrigo, Llorente, Firpo are on around £250k between them.

Plus we lashed out about £60 million recruiting them. Being relatively new and not established at this level we're not in the position to make big mistakes in the transfer market, and then be saddled with expensive turkeys and their wages.

And again, whose gonna relieve us of their expensive, in many ways, presence?

[CHAPELALLMAN]

Me too

Remember when Alan Smith first came through? There was such abuzz and excitement.

Admittedly Bamford is rusty and needs game time, but is he just gonna break down again?
Rodrigo has cost us a number of matches when he's dallied on the ball, when there was an obvious pass to play, got robbed and then the opposition has pillaged is on the counter.

All the good work of Kristensen, Koch, Struijk, Adams and Roca for 90 minutes gets unravelled in seconds each week by players who should have been shipped out quite a while ago.

One step forward and two steps backwards. Our survival is based on others at our level making the same errors and us seizing on them, while they fail to capitalise on our errors.

Been saying it for ages that we need these dead ballers like Ayling, Llorente, Cooper, Firpo, Roberts, Klich, Forshaw and Rodrigo shipped out and better brought in.

Is it any wonder we struggle with that crew hanging around choking our progression?

Yep - it's tantamount to the club standing in a bucket trying to pull it up by its handle with that bunch of players.

[SG90]

Riot only mentioned 7 players. Where do your figures come from? You never get too specific.

"Been saying it for ages that we need these dead ballers like Ayling, Llorente, Cooper, Firpo, Roberts, Klich, Forshaw and Rodrigo shipped out and better brought in."

8 players. Remember every player doubled their wages on promotion and we have no money to buy players. The wages aren't low, they're actually very high.

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manage ... /671/leeds

[SG90]

Plus we lashed out about £60 million recruiting them. Being relatively new and not established at this level we're not in the position to make big mistakes in the transfer market, and then be saddled with expensive turkeys and their wages.

And again, whose gonna relieve us of their expensive, in many ways, presence?

Orta the genius did the same at Boro. What's that they say about leopards and spots?