Everton v Leeds Utd Match Thread

[1964white]

Finally he is off

Unfortunately for Greenwood

Two of many reasons why we are finally in the relegation places.

Sinking like the Bismarck.

[1964white]

Irony is this is the first time we've been in bottom 3 all season!

We are now in our rightful position & we won't be escaping by the skin of our teeth this season.

[1964white]

Would an experienced coach be able to teach Jack Harrison how to take a free kick or a corner?
Would he be able to teach the rest of them how to pass to a team mate?

Precisely, Billys, you shouldn't need coaching to do the basics in football.

[1964white]

Yeah, spineless and clueless.

Beat by two awful Forest and Everton teams, we deserve to go down.

Add Leicester, Villa & Palace to that list.

[WhiteRose]

We are gone with 15 games left of the season, there’s not a team we can beat in this division even on a good day. Fans can try and be optimistic but it’s just conjecture with hope screening the reality of our situation.

[1964white]

Championship here we come

At least we'll win more games

[1964white]

The only positive I have to say at the mo, is if (when) we go down it serves Radz right if he loses millions from selling the club. I will laugh at that.

Will bring a wry smile from me too, Swannie,

[1964white]

I'm not even angry, just expected this to happen.

Pointless becoming angry.

I accepted the inevitable of it all a while ago.

[CHAPELALLMAN]

Here goes a rant. That display was shite. I watched the end of the 1st half, and all of the second half and that will be time I can never get back. I feel for the lifelong Leeds fans. Me as an American who have watched and/or followed every game this season, I am emotionally tied to the team as well and this season has been a rollercoaster of emotions and these types of losses put major dampers on my day and week.

That being said, today was the worst performance ive seen all campaign. This was worse then the Brentford thrashing earlier in the season. Their was absolutely no plan, and no identity. Most games this season we have looked the better team against the lower level prem teams, even if the results haven't shown it. Today we looked second best to trash Everton team who I witnessed get blown out 4-0 against an MLS team Minnesota United in the summer, albeit under Lampard.

Bamford has been terrible and has cost us points in several games with his lack of clinical finishing. It's frustrating and sad to watch. Rodders is heavily missed. Even though Jesse wasn't getting results and it came harder and harder to defend him as the season went on, the decision to fire him was horrible timing. I don't believe it can be any worse timing. I think the Rodders injury and timing of it sealed his fate, which is deserved. That injury in that game coming on as a sub was a terrible decision for Marsch and the team is suffering the consequences. Other then that, I feel the Leeds faithful were too hard on him as Leeds have just lacked quality in a lot of positons and depth. At least the team had an identity and we're exciting to watch. He should have either been sacked much earlier, or at the very least their should have been a plan in place to replace him. Terrible timing and the Leeds players and faithful are paying the price. Jack Harrison has also been shite all season. Extremely slow at making decisons and has added virtually nothing to the attack. He needs to sit and even though Aaronson has struggled of late, he still is a much better option then Harrison.

Meselier, I don't see the hype. He's still very very young for a keeper and the potential is there but I don't believe he's a premier league keeper yet. That goal he allowed was terrible positioning. Their was no Everton player within 10 yards of the box, and he left the near post wide open, which was literally the only angle Coleman had. Terrible positioning and gifted them a goal which gifted them 3 points. Shocking. Gut wrenching. I had no hope after that. I didn't see us getting a result after that and all season I've been optimistic we would fight back.

This is the first time in the campaign where I believe we are getting relegated. It was a pitiful performance. I hope we can turn it around. For the Gnontos, Summervilles, Adams... Even Ayling who I've been critical of most of the season, I feel for them as they have played their hearts out and deserve more. Rant over. I hope we can stay up. GO LEEDS #MOT

It was so much easier to pin everything on Marsch, and to be in denial of the fact that there is a chronic lack of quality in the 1st team, and in relation to the overall play in the final third. I think reality is now dawning on people.

Some thought that playing less narrow would result in flowing free scoring football....Well again - reality is dawning. If you have journeyman players such as Bamford and Harrison in the 1st team you will always be weak in the final third.

[whiteswan]

It was so much easier to pin everything on Marsch, and to be in denial of the fact that there is a chronic lack of quality in the 1st team, and in relation to the overall play in the final third. I think reality is now dawning on people.

Some thought that playing less narrow would result in flowing free scoring football....Well again - reality is dawning. If you have journeyman players such as Bamford and Harrison in the 1st team you will always be weak in the final third.

No denial from me...and what is this reality is dawning all about. And from who? Or is that just from you. Its all on Marsch. But then of course he should never have been appointed in the first place. The board have a lot to answer for.....a shocking way to run our football club.

[JoeDenver]

No denial from me...and what is this reality is dawning all about. And from who? Or is that just from you. Its all on Marsch. But then of course he should never have been appointed in the first place. The board have a lot to answer for.....a shocking way to run our football club.

I think what CHAPEL is trying to say is that Marsch’s system, as crazy as it was, gave us some semblance of a purpose…a relentlessness of sorts. Whereas we are now completely rudderless and directionless.

Lots of change on the horizon…so there’s that to look forward to.

[JoeDenver]

I wasn't able to watch the match live today. Just finished watching on-demand. What an awful, dire performance. Most every player was terrible today. With the exception of Tyler Adams. He battled and never stopped running. Harrison was the worst player on the pitch for me. Although I will say that Worber was close. He came off at half so I wonder if he was ill. He looked a mile off the pace in the first half.

The goal was 100% on Meslier. His positioning was absolute crap on that goal. Why is he so far off his line when there are ZERO players in blue to receive a cross? He needed to be covering his near post. That is fundamental goalkeeping. Complete failure!

Credit to Coleman for punishing his mistake.

Tactically I have no idea what we were trying to do going forward. At least with Jesse there was a plan. It might have been a shitty plan but it was a plan. And we looked a lot more dangerous than we did today.

Suspicion is that he dislocated his shoulder early on and played through until the half. Will likely be out for the next 1-2 weeks.

[Kennyb41]

Here goes a rant. That display was shite. I watched the end of the 1st half, and all of the second half and that will be time I can never get back. I feel for the lifelong Leeds fans. Me as an American who have watched and/or followed every game this season, I am emotionally tied to the team as well and this season has been a rollercoaster of emotions and these types of losses put major dampers on my day and week.

That being said, today was the worst performance ive seen all campaign. This was worse then the Brentford thrashing earlier in the season. Their was absolutely no plan, and no identity. Most games this season we have looked the better team against the lower level prem teams, even if the results haven't shown it. Today we looked second best to trash Everton team who I witnessed get blown out 4-0 against an MLS team Minnesota United in the summer, albeit under Lampard.

Bamford has been terrible and has cost us points in several games with his lack of clinical finishing. It's frustrating and sad to watch. Rodders is heavily missed. Even though Jesse wasn't getting results and it came harder and harder to defend him as the season went on, the decision to fire him was horrible timing. I don't believe it can be any worse timing. I think the Rodders injury and timing of it sealed his fate, which is deserved. That injury in that game coming on as a sub was a terrible decision for Marsch and the team is suffering the consequences. Other then that, I feel the Leeds faithful were too hard on him as Leeds have just lacked quality in a lot of positons and depth. At least the team had an identity and we're exciting to watch. He should have either been sacked much earlier, or at the very least their should have been a plan in place to replace him. Terrible timing and the Leeds players and faithful are paying the price. Jack Harrison has also been shite all season. Extremely slow at making decisons and has added virtually nothing to the attack. He needs to sit and even though Aaronson has struggled of late, he still is a much better option then Harrison.

Meselier, I don't see the hype. He's still very very young for a keeper and the potential is there but I don't believe he's a premier league keeper yet. That goal he allowed was terrible positioning. Their was no Everton player within 10 yards of the box, and he left the near post wide open, which was literally the only angle Coleman had. Terrible positioning and gifted them a goal which gifted them 3 points. Shocking. Gut wrenching. I had no hope after that. I didn't see us getting a result after that and all season I've been optimistic we would fight back.

This is the first time in the campaign where I believe we are getting relegated. It was a pitiful performance. I hope we can turn it around. For the Gnontos, Summervilles, Adams... Even Ayling who I've been critical of most of the season, I feel for them as they have played their hearts out and deserve more. Rant over. I hope we can stay up. GO LEEDS #MOT

Good rant.

We had no identity yesterday, hey ! It might go some way in highlighting what Jesse and especially Bert were up against trying to form something out of Ortas trash, oh dear - we're fcked, i haven't a clue if even big Sam could save us after yesterday

[Kennyb41]

I wasn't able to watch the match live today. Just finished watching on-demand. What an awful, dire performance. Most every player was terrible today. With the exception of Tyler Adams. He battled and never stopped running. Harrison was the worst player on the pitch for me. Although I will say that Worber was close. He came off at half so I wonder if he was ill. He looked a mile off the pace in the first half.

The goal was 100% on Meslier. His positioning was absolute crap on that goal. Why is he so far off his line when there are ZERO players in blue to receive a cross? He needed to be covering his near post. That is fundamental goalkeeping. Complete failure!

Credit to Coleman for punishing his mistake.

Tactically I have no idea what we were trying to do going forward. At least with Jesse there was a plan. It might have been a shitty plan but it was a plan. And we looked a lot more dangerous than we did today.

We offered absolutely nothing Paul, all i can think of is that Skubs was too scared of losing, Efc were shite but Dyche sussed this and went for the win throwing his wingbacks into the attack coz ours were doing fck all, in fact all our team were doing fck all, Skubs came with the idea of not getting beat, that's very risky as it showed.

We're a right old mish mash of players now and fck knows who can save us.

[White Riot]

Add Leicester, Villa & Palace to that list.

I'm just wondering when our next win will come?

Maybe in the Championship

[White Riot]

At least we'll win more games

Maybe, but not if that's the standard of our performance.

[White Riot]

Leicester must be exhaling a collective sigh of relief that they dodged a bullet with Jack Harrison

Fully expect them and the Irons to win today.

I'm still astounded and fuming with that non-appearance yesterday.

Folded under pressure.

Imagine ER next Saturday if that happens again

[1964white]

Leicester must be exhaling a collective sigh of relief that they dodged a bullet with Jack Harrison

Fully expect them and the Irons to win today.

I'm still astounded and fuming with that non-appearance yesterday.

Folded under pressure.

Imagine ER next Saturday if that happens again

Imagine next Saturday when Ward-Prowse sinks us with one of his free-kicks again.

Oh wait ---- We have Sam Greenwood & the whispering duo who can execute a free-kick

[White Riot]

Imagine next Saturday when Ward-Prowse sinks us with one of his free-kicks again.

Oh wait ---- We have Sam Greenwood & the whispering duo who can execute a free-kick

It's gonna be toxic mate. I wanna see Orta shouting Sack The Board

[Chilli D]

Since we scored the second at OT (albeit an OG) we've gone two and a bit games without creating anything of any note.
Very depressing.
It's all very well Bamford complaining about JM 's system but we're not playing that now and he was abysmal yesterday. His air shot defied belief.
We still have time to turn it around but things will have to improve dramatically otherwise we're sunk.